With Windows Update not working (Win7), will the PC be secure using Malwarebytes & Trend Micro AV?

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I have spent about 30 hours trying every Microsoft & 3rd party remedy for loss of Windows Update about 4 months ago. Since I have the premium (paid) versions of Trend and Malwarebytes, it seems I would be safe from security breaches - is this true?
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  • carlosdl
    Keeping the operating system up to date is a vital security measure.  Antivirus and similar tools help, but they don't substitute OS updates.

    I would consider backing up all of my files and re-installing the operating system if it doesn't seem to be other ways to get Windows update working again.
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  • bhannah
    I have to agree with @carlosdl. It is critical that you keep the O/S patched. Even though you are running good AV / Antimalware products, they do not fix everything. I suspect you had a MS Patch blowup on installation earlier and it is now preventing any and all MS Updates. You may need to go through MS Update log and see if any patches failed. I had the same issue happen on using Win 7 Enterprise. I first attempted repairing the failed patch using MS suggestions to repair the system, and when that failed I backed up the data files and reinstalled the O/S which and then re-updated the system and restored the data files.
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  • ToddN2000
    Why is your windows update not working? If you could pin point the date, is there a restore point you could go back too? Another possible fix would be to upgrade to Win 8 to keep your OS up to date.
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  • underH2Odan
    I have had Trend AV on this PC and have been creating restore points several times per year since I bought the machine new in 2013.  I have run many WU repair tools, programs, and painstakingly went through a list of registry files that one program found were incorrect or missing. One repair program was so aggressive, I ended up with the "no screen of death", and had to backup to the previous restore point.
    Ultimately, I decided to go back to a Dec. 2014 restore point, but to my amazement, found that they were all gone except the ones in April 2015!  This appears to be a bug in Windows in addition to the Windows Updates problem.  Also, my Anytime Upgrade doesn't work. 
    I think Microsoft created the whole issue with a defective WU a few months back.  This suggests that anyone still getting Windows Updates should wait before allowing them to install until they can be verified as harmless on a blog like this one.
    Thanks for your input.
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  • carlosdl
    It can be a real pain.

    I am an IT person with many years of experience, yet I gave up trying to make Windows update work again on my work Win7 machine a few months back.  It was taking too much of my time, and I was getting really tired of it.  Fortunately (I really mean it) a severe fail of the building's power supply made someone at the office have to turn it off one night, and the UPS battery died before it was able to shut down, so it was left without energy in the middle of the update process (Windows tried to apply patches again before shutting down).  After the power was normalized the OS was completely unusable and I had no other choice than to reinstall it.  I'm happy I was forced to do that.
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  • underH2Odan
    Thanks Carlos.  It seems to me that if I am going to put myself through an OS reinstall, I may as well go for Windows 8.1.  I and my family have 4 PCs with this program, I don't mind it (everybody freaked on the differences from XP/Win7, but it's really just a slightly different interface).  I have heard that it is more robust with multitasking, security, and resource efficiency, and hasn't had the updates problem that we Windows 7 users have had.  What is your take on just upgrading to the newer OS.
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  • carlosdl
    That's a good option.

    I moved my home machines to Windows 8 since it was made available, and I haven't had any issues of any kind so far.

    Just make sure your hardware meets the requirements, the appropriate drivers are available, and the software that is important for you is supported on Windows 8. 
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