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		<title>24HOP: BI Workload Follow-Up</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 19:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Denny Cherry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a total repost of Stacia&#8217;s blog post from this morning so that hopefully everyone will see it.  So pretend that Stacia wrote this and that I didn&#8217;t. Yesterday, Denny Cherry (blog&#124;twitter) and I co-presented a 24HOP session for the Fall 2011 lineup, “So How Does the BI Workload Impact the Database Engine?” 24HOP [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a total repost of Stacia&#8217;s <a href="http://sqlblog.com/blogs/stacia_misner/archive/2011/09/08/38352.aspx">blog post</a> from this morning so that hopefully everyone will see it.  So pretend that Stacia wrote this and that I didn&#8217;t.</p>
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<blockquote><p>Yesterday, Denny Cherry (<a href="http://www.mrdenny.com/" target="_blank">blog</a>|<a href="http://www.twitter.com/mrdenny" target="_blank">twitter</a>) and I co-presented a <a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/24hours/fall2011/default.aspx" target="_blank">24HOP session for the Fall 2011 lineup</a>,  “So How Does the BI Workload Impact the Database Engine?” 24HOP stands  for 24 Hours of PASS and is a semiannual roundup of speakers from the  SQL Server community. Initially, this event consisted of 24 consecutive  sessions, each lasting an hour, but later it became a two-day event with  12 consecutive sessions each day. The sessions are free to attend and  feature many great topics covering the spectrum of SQL Server things to  know. Even if you missed previous 24HOP events, you can always go back  and view recordings of sessions that interest you at the 24HOP site for <a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/24hours/spring2011/" target="_blank">Spring 2011</a> and <a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/24hours/fall2010/" target="_blank">Fall 2010</a>.</p>
<p>And  if you missed Denny and me yesterday, a recording will be available in a  couple of weeks and I’ll update this post with a link. Our hour-long  session for 24HOP was a sneak preview of our upcoming half-day session  of the same name that we’ll be presenting at the <a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/summit/2011/" target="_blank">PASS Summit</a> in Seattle on Thursday, October 13, 2011 from 1:30 pm to 4:30 PM. In our <a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/summit/2011/Speakers/CallForSpeakers/SessionDetail.aspx?sid=1134" target="_blank">half-day session</a>,  we’ll dig into the details and spend more time on database engine  analysis, whereas in our 24HOP session, we focused on reviewing the  architecture and highlighting the connection between BI components and  the database engine.</p>
<p>We were able to answer a few questions at  the end, but one question in particular could not be answered easily in  the time allotted in a single sentence or two: How much RAM do I need to  plan for Integration Services (SSIS)? Andy Leonard (<a href="http://sqlblog.com/blogs/andy_leonard" target="_blank">blog</a>|<a href="http://www.twitter.com/AndyLeonard" target="_blank">twitter</a>)  did manage a succinct response: All of it! I, on the other hand, am not  known for being succinct, so deferred the question for this post.</p>
<p>Andy  is right that SSIS wants as much memory as you can give it, which can  be problematic if you’re executing an SSIS package on the same box as  SQL Server. On the other hand, there are benefits to executing the  package on the same box as well, so there is no one-size-fits-all  solution. And the solution for one data integration scenario might not  be the right solution for another data integration scenario. A lot  depends on what CPU and RAM resources a given server has and how much  data is involved. In order to know how much horsepower you need, you’re  going to have to do some benchmark testing with packages. Here are some  good resources for SSIS if you’re concerned about memory:</p>
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<li><a href="http://sqlcat.com/sqlcat/b/top10lists/archive/2008/10/01/top-10-sql-server-integration-services-best-practices.aspx" target="_blank">Top 10 SQL Server Integration Services Best Practices</a> from the SQL Customer Advisory Team (<a href="http://sqlcat.com/" target="_blank">blog</a> | <a href="http://www.twitter.com/sqlcat" target="_blank">twitter</a>):  This article provides an overview of best practices (as the name  implies!) and includes links to information about using performance  counters to monitor resource usage and about optimizing the Lookup  transformation, which is one of the big memory consumers in SSIS.</li>
<li><a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc966530.aspx" target="_blank">SQL Server 2005 Integration Services: A Strategy for Performance</a>, a whitepaper by my friend, former colleague, and co-author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Business-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B004OR1XYC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1315496545&amp;sr=8-2" target="_blank">my first book</a>,  Elizabeth Vitt. Although it was written for SSIS 2005, the principles  related to tuning packages and how to benchmark still apply. The  significant changes between SSIS 2005 and SSIS 2008 with regard to  performance were improvements in thread management and in the <a href="http://www.sql-server-performance.com/2009/SSIS-New-Features-in-SQL-Server-2008-Part2/" target="_blank">Lookup transformation</a>.</li>
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<p>Is  there a rule of thumb for deciding how much memory you’ll need for  SSIS? Well, no less than 4 GB per CPU core is a good place to start. But  if that’s not possible, you certainly want to have memory that’s at  least two or three times the size of data that you expect to be  processing at a given time. So if you’re processing 1 GB of data, you’ll  want at least 2-3 GB of memory and, of course, more memory is even  better!</p></blockquote>
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		<title>LaRock must be drinking on the job, I&#8217;m being allowed to speak during 24 Hours of PASS</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Denny Cherry</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#8217;s right, Mr. LaRock himself (Blog &#124; Twitter) is giving me the chance to present during the 24 Hours of PASS (aka 24 HoP) virtual conference this time around.  I&#8217;ll be doing my &#8220;Storage for the DBA&#8221; session to give you a taste of what you&#8217;ll be able to get during my pre-con at this [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, Mr. LaRock himself (<a href="http://thomaslarock.com/">Blog</a> | <a href="http://twitter.com/sqlrockstar">Twitter</a>) is giving me the <a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/24hours/fall2010/">chance to present</a> during the <a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/24hours/fall2010/">24 Hours of PASS</a> (aka 24 HoP) virtual conference this time around.  I&#8217;ll be doing my &#8220;<a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/24hours/fall2010/">Storage for the DBA</a>&#8221; session to give you a taste of what you&#8217;ll be able to get during my pre-con at this years summit, and best of all the virtual conference is totally and completely free.<span id="more-1239"></span></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, this year you don&#8217;t have to stay up all night long (if you live in the Americas, if you don&#8217;t then you&#8217;ve got two long nights coming up) as 24 HoP will be held over two 12 hour sessions from 1200 GMT until 0000 GMT on both September 15th and 16th.  PASS has put up a page which gives some <a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/24hours/fall2010/TimeZones.aspx">cities around the world</a> and the local start time.</p>
<p>My <a href="http://www.sqlpass.org/24hours/fall2010/Home/StoragefortheDBA.aspx">session starts</a> at 1600 GMT, 0900 Pacific, 1200 Eastern.  Be sure to <a href="http://bit.ly/apgqF8">sign up</a> so that you can get the sessions you want to see in your calendar.</p>
<p>Denny</p>
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