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		<title>VMware engineers caution IT pros: Use Fault Tolerance sparingly</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 19:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Botelho</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the most anticipated features in the next version of VMware Virtual Infrastructure, vSphere, is Fault Tolerance, but VMware engineers caution IT pros to use it sparingly. During the New England VMware User Group meeting in Newport, RI on April 30, VMware engineers who gave a session called &#8220;What&#8217;s Next for VMware Virtual Infrastructure&#8221; [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal">One of the most anticipated features in the next version of VMware Virtual Infrastructure, <a title="vSphere" href="http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid94_gci1354214,00.html">vSphere</a>, is <a href="http://www.vmware.com/products/fault-tolerance/">Fault Tolerance</a>, but VMware engineers caution IT pros to use it sparingly.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">During the <a title="VMUG" href="http://communities.vmware.com/community/vmug/us_northeast/new_england">New England VMware User Group</a> meeting in Newport, RI on April 30, VMware engineers who gave a session called &#8220;What&#8217;s Next for VMware Virtual Infrastructure&#8221; said not to use the upcoming fault tolerance (FT) feature as a general replacement for High Availability because it requires more resources. Instead, only use it where absolutely no downtime can be tolerated.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span id="more-1430"></span>“To use it, you have to allocate extra resources, and it is a noticeable and significant – you need between 20-30% extra capacity.&#8221; VMware has not revealed exactly how much latency results from using its Fault Tolerance feature yet, but engineers said, “You have to expect some latency with the fault tolerance feature, and we continue to work on that.&#8221;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Despite its downfalls, fault tolerance is an important feature for IT Pros running mission critical applications on VMs, especially if there are numerous important VMs on a single box, in which case eliminating the risk of losing those VMs during a host failure is critically important. &#8220;In most cases the benefits of fault tolerance outweigh the downfalls,&#8221; a VMware engineer told attendees.</p>
<p><img class="alignright" src="http://www.vmware.co.nz/files/images/diagrams/fault_tolerance_640x394.gif" alt="VMware Fault Tolerance diagram" width="384" height="236" /><span style="color: #434343"><a href="http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/resources/ft_virtualization_wp.pdf">VMware FT</a> </span><span lang="EN">is based on what VMware calls <a title="vLockstep video" href="http://searchvmware.techtarget.com/video/0,297151,sid179_gci1336986,00.html">vLockstep technology</a>, which works by </span>having a secondary virtual machine (VM) make an instruction mirror of the first VM on a different physical box, so if a physical component fails, the mirrored VM kicks on and operations continue as if nothing happened.</p>
<p>The two ESX hosts used in FT must share storage systems, and require extra RAM, CPU and I/O capacity, the VMware engineers said.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>VMware FT </span><span lang="EN">uses <span style="color: blue"><a href="http://www.vmware.com/products/vi/vc/ha.html">VMware HA</a></span> clusters of up to 16 servers, and any number of VMs in a cluster can be protected with VMware FT. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">VMware’s FT feature will be included in <a href="http://www.vmware.com/files/pdf/vsphere_pricing.pdf">vSphere Advanced Edition</a>, which is priced at $2,245 per single processor. The company has yet to announce an official release date.</p>
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		<title>VMware defends its upcoming fault-tolerance feature</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Botelho</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[During VMworld 2008 in Las Vegas last week, VMware Inc. announced its upcoming fault tolerance feature and gave a demonstration of it during one of the keynote sessions. It looked pretty good and simple to use, but Littleton, Mass.-based Marathon Technologies Corp., a company that specializes in fault tolerance software, had plenty to say otherwise. [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During VMworld 2008 in Las Vegas last week, VMware Inc. <a href="http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid94_gci1329985,00.html">announced its upcoming fault tolerance feature</a> and gave a <a href="http://www.vmworld.com/vmworld/message/3345#3345">demonstration</a> of it during one of the <a href="http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid94_gci1329985,00.html">keynote sessions</a>. It looked pretty good and simple to use, but Littleton, Mass.-based <a href="http://www.marathontechnologies.com/">Marathon Technologies Corp</a>., a company that specializes in fault tolerance software, had <a href="http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid94_gci1330821,00.html">plenty to say otherwise</a>.</p>
<p>In response to <a href="http://marathontechnologies.net/2008/09/16/vmware-ft-%E2%80%93-the-top-four-reasons-it%E2%80%99s-kinda-sorta-fault-tolerance/">Marathon&#8217;s blog</a> dissin&#8217; the upcoming feature, Palo Alto, Calif.-<img src="http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/6000/6021/fencing_6_lg.gif" alt="Fencing - UFC" width="300" align="right" height="156" />based <a href="http://www.vmware.com/" title="VMware">VMware</a>&#8216;s Mike DePetrillo, a principal systems engineer,  wrote a <a href="http://mikedatl.typepad.com/mikedvirtualization/2008/09/marathon-and-vm.html">blog defending VMware Fault Tolerance</a>.</p>
<p>For starters, Marathon complained that VMware does not provide component-level fault tolerance. &#8220;The most common failures that result in unplanned downtime are component failures such as storage, NIC [network interface card] or controller failures. Yet VMware Fault Tolerance doesn’t do anything to protect against I/O, storage or network failures.&#8221;</p>
<p>DePetrillo noted that VMware already has features to protect again component failure. &#8220;If your NIC fails you&#8217;ve got NIC teaming built into the system. To set it up simply plug in both NICs to the server, go into the network panel and attach both of them to the same virtual switch. Done. Four clicks. Same thing for storage with the built-in SAN [storage area network] multipathing drivers,&#8221; DePetrillo wrote. &#8220;I absolutely agree with the author that component failures are the cause of most crashes and that&#8217;s why VMware added these features in 2002. VMware FT is not designed for component failure because there&#8217;s no sense in moving the VM to another host if you&#8217;ve simply lost a NIC uplink. NIC teaming will take care of that with ease and is a LOT cheaper than using CPU and memory resources on another host to overcome the failure.&#8221;</p>
<p>Marathon&#8217;s second beef: VMware&#8217;s fault tolerance is too complex. &#8220;In order to use VMware Fault Tolerance, you’ll first have to install both VMware HA [High Availability] and DRS [Distributed Resource Scheduler]. No small feat in and of themselves. Then, because VMware FT requires NIC teaming, you’ll also have to manually install paired NICs. Then you’ll need to manually set up dual storage controllers (with the software to manage them) because it requires multipathing. And to top it all off, you’re required to use an expensive, and often complicated, SAN.&#8221;</p>
<p>DePetrillo said the process requires checking off two boxes &#8211; HA and DRS. That&#8217;s it. &#8220;If that&#8217;s too hard then please comment and let me know how it could possibly be easier. Even my dog has figured out how to do this now. Granted, it&#8217;s a pretty smart dog.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;As for setting up the dual NICs and dual HBAs [host bus adapters], well, yes, you have to actually plug the physical devices in. After you&#8217;ve done that the **built-in** NIC teaming and HBA drivers will take over and configure most everything for you. The NIC teaming does require four extra clicks. The HBA drivers actually figure out the failover paths, match them up, and set up the appropriate form of failover all auto-magically. They&#8217;ve been doing this since ESX 1.5 (6 years ago),&#8221; DePetrillo blogged.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lastly, yes, this requires shared storage. Pretty sure that most environments that want FT (no downtime what-so-ever because our business could lose millions) already have a SAN to take advantage of other things virtualization related such as DRS and VMotion,&#8221; he wrote.</p>
<p>Also, VMware FT does not require dual NICs or dual HBAs because, DePetrillo said, &#8220;This is something you should have in every virtualization setup that&#8217;s running VMs you care anything about, but it&#8217;s not a requirement to get VMware FT [Fault Tolerance] running.&#8221;</p>
<p>The last point Marathon makes that&#8217;s worth spending any time on is that VMware  offers onlylimited CPU fault tolerance. &#8220;With VMware FT, you’ll need to set up what VMware refers to as a “record/replay” capability on both a primary and secondary server. If something happens to the primary server, the record is stored on the SAN and then restarted on the secondary server. &#8230; The whole thing depends on the quality of the SAN. Second, in the words of the VMware engineer who presented at VMworld, “this can take a couple of seconds.” So what happens to your application state in those couple of seconds?&#8221;</p>
<p>DePetrillo&#8217;s defense is that &#8220;if you&#8217;re the type of company that requires absolutely no downtime for an app &#8212; if the app is just that critical &#8212; then I&#8217;m pretty sure you&#8217;re going to have a decent SAN. &#8230; If you&#8217;re having so many problems with your SAN that you don&#8217;t trust it for FT, then you have much bigger issues at hand that VMware or Marathon or any of the other virtualization related vendors aren&#8217;t going to help you with.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can read more of VMware&#8217;s comments on <a href="http://mikedatl.typepad.com/mikedvirtualization/2008/09/marathon-and-vm.html" title="DePetrillos Blog">DePetrillo&#8217;s blog</a>, which gets into some details on how VMware Fault Tolerance will work, and vice versa for Marathon.</p>
<p>But I think it is obvious that Marathon is making VMware&#8217;s fault tolerance feature seem worse than it is, and VMware is making its new feature seem simpler than it is.</p>
<p>For the most part, this is a pissing contest between the incumbent fault-tolerance vendor and the &#8220;new guy,&#8221; but the fact of the matter is, if you use VMware virtualization, you can&#8217;t use Marathon Technologies because they don&#8217;t support VMware (obviously) and if you use <a href="http://citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=683148" target="_blank">Citrix Systems&#8217; XenServer</a>, you can&#8217;t use VMware Fault Tolerance, so these arguments are moot.</p>
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