Comments on: Hyper-V could benefit from VMware’s Xen-based competition http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/server-virtualization/hyper-v-could-benefit-from-vmware%e2%80%99s-xen-based-competition/ A SearchServerVirtualization.com blog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 09:55:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Adnan Hindi http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/server-virtualization/hyper-v-could-benefit-from-vmware%e2%80%99s-xen-based-competition/#comment-1433 Adnan Hindi Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:07:14 +0000 http://servervirtualization.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/06/03/hyper-v-could-benefit-from-vmware%e2%80%99s-xen-based-competition/#comment-1433 Nice post. Reasons for Virtualizing vary; reducing datacenter footprints, managing desktop environments, controlling intellectual property, and introducing high-availability to apps that could normally not be considered for HA. While VMware is currently the leader in enterprise based solutions that need HA, DRS, VMotions, Storage VMotion, Site Recovery Manager there is plenty of room for Hyper-V, Xen, anyone else that enters the Hypervisor game. The key differentiators will be tool sets that manage, control, and give visibility into the hypervisor farms. Non-hypervisor specific tools will be where the most people will end up spending their money. Nice post.

Reasons for Virtualizing vary; reducing datacenter footprints, managing desktop environments, controlling intellectual property, and introducing high-availability to apps that could normally not be considered for HA. While VMware is currently the leader in enterprise based solutions that need HA, DRS, VMotions, Storage VMotion, Site Recovery Manager there is plenty of room for Hyper-V, Xen, anyone else that enters the Hypervisor game. The key differentiators will be tool sets that manage, control, and give visibility into the hypervisor farms. Non-hypervisor specific tools will be where the most people will end up spending their money.

]]> By: al striker http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/server-virtualization/hyper-v-could-benefit-from-vmware%e2%80%99s-xen-based-competition/#comment-1432 al striker Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:40:38 +0000 http://servervirtualization.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/06/03/hyper-v-could-benefit-from-vmware%e2%80%99s-xen-based-competition/#comment-1432 Nice article indeed, however, having worked extensively with VMware, and XenServer, I still find all other feature sets severely lacking. VMware is still years ahead of all other vendors when you consider their full product sets. Vmotion and storage Vmotion, are two abilities that are often underplayed by people that haven't had the joy to work with them. The ability to "lockstep" a VM with both an extra host, AND san is huge. Lab Manager? Site Recovery Manager? not to mention how easy and seamless all of these tools have become. It is nice to see other vendors "competing" however, I feel that VMware is often misunderstood and downplayed even though they are the leaders of the market, and continue to innovate. imho Nice article indeed, however, having worked extensively with VMware, and XenServer, I still find all other feature sets severely lacking. VMware is still years ahead of all other vendors when you consider their full product sets. Vmotion and storage Vmotion, are two abilities that are often underplayed by people that haven’t had the joy to work with them. The ability to “lockstep” a VM with both an extra host, AND san is huge. Lab Manager? Site Recovery Manager? not to mention how easy and seamless all of these tools have become.

It is nice to see other vendors “competing” however, I feel that VMware is often misunderstood and downplayed even though they are the leaders of the market, and continue to innovate.

imho

]]> By: Channelvirtualization http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/server-virtualization/hyper-v-could-benefit-from-vmware%e2%80%99s-xen-based-competition/#comment-1431 Channelvirtualization Thu, 05 Jun 2008 19:57:36 +0000 http://servervirtualization.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/06/03/hyper-v-could-benefit-from-vmware%e2%80%99s-xen-based-competition/#comment-1431 Nice clear article, furthermore we had the chance to meet Simon Crosbie (CTO Citrix Virtualization) today and he added some more information to this. The hypervisor will become a commodity that is actually the engine. All additional features and the ecosystem around a hypervisor will change the hypervisor from an engine into a car. The same applies to Hyper-V, if you have not enough features in Hyper-V you can move onwards to XenServer, which has a large ecosystem due to the channel-nature of Citrix, this is what is a little bit missing with VMware. Also the 'love' between Microsoft and Citrix will result in portable VMs between Hyper-V and Xenserver, furthermore Microsoft is currently testing compatibility of the virtualization solution and the application in that VM with Citrix, Sun and Novell. The fact that Hyper-V is a paravirtualization solution makes more sense to the community that the hypervisor of VMware due to its leaner design (less overhead) and easy management. The fact that VMware is getting a little frustrated was shown by the aggressive email that they send to their partners doing their best to reduce the force of Hyper-V and XenServer, XenDesktop Anyhow the market is still out there (over 95% of all servers and desktops in the world) are not virtualized. For the enduser it is better to be able to work with one of the three major vendors, knowing that there is support, continuity, ... and that their beloved product will come cheaper due to the competition. Nice clear article, furthermore we had the chance to meet Simon Crosbie (CTO Citrix Virtualization) today and he added some more information to this.

The hypervisor will become a commodity that is actually the engine. All additional features and the ecosystem around a hypervisor will change the hypervisor from an engine into a car.

The same applies to Hyper-V, if you have not enough features in Hyper-V you can move onwards to XenServer, which has a large ecosystem due to the channel-nature of Citrix, this is what is a little bit missing with VMware.

Also the ‘love’ between Microsoft and Citrix will result in portable VMs between Hyper-V and Xenserver, furthermore Microsoft is currently testing compatibility of the virtualization solution and the application in that VM with Citrix, Sun and Novell.

The fact that Hyper-V is a paravirtualization solution makes more sense to the community that the hypervisor of VMware due to its leaner design (less overhead) and easy management.

The fact that VMware is getting a little frustrated was shown by the aggressive email that they send to their partners doing their best to reduce the force of Hyper-V and XenServer, XenDesktop

Anyhow the market is still out there (over 95% of all servers and desktops in the world) are not virtualized. For the enduser it is better to be able to work with one of the three major vendors, knowing that there is support, continuity, … and that their beloved product will come cheaper due to the competition.

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