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		<title>By: SAPNANO</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/what%e2%80%99s-the-real-trend-in-failed-sap-projects/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>SAPNANO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you look for the SI look at QUALITY.  Look at a firm that does not bring in a new rep/evaluation every time they come in your door.

DO NOT look just for price.  If that was the case then everyone would be looking to IBM or Accenture...or in the other direction to the Off shore lot.

What needs to happen is to have strong management who is willing to look at the quality of the SI team and employees, do a strong review of their quality and not to let them dictate by putting low caliber labor on-site or off-site just to have sheer numbers as this would be terrible.

Make sure you have a strong PM &#38; CM effort...be aware of not getting training or no knowledge transfer as you really need this badly for success!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you look for the SI look at QUALITY.  Look at a firm that does not bring in a new rep/evaluation every time they come in your door.</p>
<p>DO NOT look just for price.  If that was the case then everyone would be looking to IBM or Accenture&#8230;or in the other direction to the Off shore lot.</p>
<p>What needs to happen is to have strong management who is willing to look at the quality of the SI team and employees, do a strong review of their quality and not to let them dictate by putting low caliber labor on-site or off-site just to have sheer numbers as this would be terrible.</p>
<p>Make sure you have a strong PM &amp; CM effort&#8230;be aware of not getting training or no knowledge transfer as you really need this badly for success!</p>
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		<title>By: RITESHBHUSHAN</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/what%e2%80%99s-the-real-trend-in-failed-sap-projects/#comment-885</link>
		<dc:creator>RITESHBHUSHAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is easy to blame the SI /big offshore indian firms for failure ,SAPNANO. But what organizations need to introspect is their readiness to take the big leap in ERP implementations. Homework should be properly done before plunging into big ticket ERP implementations
Some of this would help 
1) A dilligent RFP, with requisite details on the business processes and clearly laid down evaluation criteria
2) Authentic and Proven PMO in charge of implementation and not a makeshift project team
3) Change Management- Information Sharing with employees and initiating training sessions early in the implementation phase
4) Start Simple and not exhaustive right at the beginning. Organization dip stick test would reveal the mood and then it could be extended to other functions. My 5 + years SAP consulting experience has been  that you should start with FI and HR . You need to show value to the employees and the shareholder and then you can expand your horizons.

Ritesh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is easy to blame the SI /big offshore indian firms for failure ,SAPNANO. But what organizations need to introspect is their readiness to take the big leap in ERP implementations. Homework should be properly done before plunging into big ticket ERP implementations<br />
Some of this would help<br />
1) A dilligent RFP, with requisite details on the business processes and clearly laid down evaluation criteria<br />
2) Authentic and Proven PMO in charge of implementation and not a makeshift project team<br />
3) Change Management- Information Sharing with employees and initiating training sessions early in the implementation phase<br />
4) Start Simple and not exhaustive right at the beginning. Organization dip stick test would reveal the mood and then it could be extended to other functions. My 5 + years SAP consulting experience has been  that you should start with FI and HR . You need to show value to the employees and the shareholder and then you can expand your horizons.</p>
<p>Ritesh</p>
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		<title>By: JHillesheim</title>
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		<dc:creator>JHillesheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These failures are certainly related to the implementation partner, we have been generating most of SAP reference clients in the HR space and it always amazes me when clients buy SAP based on the successes we have delivered and then figure "this bigger company or offshore company can do it as good".

Joseph Hillesheim &#124; Founder and President
E:  joe@aspirehr.com  &#124;  W: www.aspirehr.com
  


Think about it. These failures and overruns have spurred a slew of new procurement processes to address the past issues. Formalized RFPs, complex weighted selection criteria, one-throat-to-choke requirements, preferred vendor programs, etc. which have done nothing to reverse the trend—in fact they have enabled these horrible decisions to be made with tremendous efficiency at alarming new speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These failures are certainly related to the implementation partner, we have been generating most of SAP reference clients in the HR space and it always amazes me when clients buy SAP based on the successes we have delivered and then figure &#8220;this bigger company or offshore company can do it as good&#8221;.</p>
<p>Joseph Hillesheim | Founder and President<br />
E:  &nbsp;&lt;a href="mailto:joe@aspirehr.com" title="mailto:joe@aspirehr.com"&gt;joe at aspirehr.com&lt;/a&gt;  |  W:&nbsp;&lt;a href="http://www.aspirehr.com" title="http://www.aspirehr. " target="_blank"&gt;www.aspirehr.com&lt;/a&gt;</p>
<p>Think about it. These failures and overruns have spurred a slew of new procurement processes to address the past issues. Formalized RFPs, complex weighted selection criteria, one-throat-to-choke requirements, preferred vendor programs, etc. which have done nothing to reverse the trend—in fact they have enabled these horrible decisions to be made with tremendous efficiency at alarming new speed.</p>
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		<title>By: CourtneyBjorlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>CourtneyBjorlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAPNANO: Thanks for the insight. Any tips on what people should be looking for when choosing an SI?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAPNANO: Thanks for the insight. Any tips on what people should be looking for when choosing an SI?</p>
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		<title>By: SAPNANO</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/what%e2%80%99s-the-real-trend-in-failed-sap-projects/#comment-880</link>
		<dc:creator>SAPNANO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 20:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Courtney;
You and Josh are so right it is the integrators not SAP the SW...when you look at the companies having issues with their implementation it is the firms who went with the cheap offshore route...Ciber at the Shane Co. in particular was not a good fit from day 1 and the off-shore firm from Select comfort was just the same.

What folks need to look at is first and foremost if you want to go with the cheapest firm (typically off-shore firms) you need to be aware that you are going to have these issues.

If your budget can not support one of the big 5 then you need to look for on-shore firms who truly know the SAP eco-system.

Too be honest more firms need to look to firms like CCI, L2P, Exaserve etc...US based firms who are SAP partners who know how to install SAP not just know how to spell it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courtney;<br />
You and Josh are so right it is the integrators not SAP the SW&#8230;when you look at the companies having issues with their implementation it is the firms who went with the cheap offshore route&#8230;Ciber at the Shane Co. in particular was not a good fit from day 1 and the off-shore firm from Select comfort was just the same.</p>
<p>What folks need to look at is first and foremost if you want to go with the cheapest firm (typically off-shore firms) you need to be aware that you are going to have these issues.</p>
<p>If your budget can not support one of the big 5 then you need to look for on-shore firms who truly know the SAP eco-system.</p>
<p>Too be honest more firms need to look to firms like CCI, L2P, Exaserve&nbsp;&lt;a href="http://etc...US" title="http://etc... " target="_blank"&gt;etc&#8230;US&lt;/a&gt; based firms who are SAP partners who know how to install SAP not just know how to spell it.</p>
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