Comments on: The SAP training lie http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/the-sap-training-lie/ A SearchSAP.com blog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:08:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: SAPCertification http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-909 SAPCertification Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:14:03 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/14/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-909 Any one interested to do Genuine SAP Certifications test for Free for all modules you can find at http://sapcertifications.ol-edu.com.All the test materials are prepared by SAP Certified Consultants by SAP AG, who performed Certification training programs at SAP Authorized Training center(ATC) in respective modules and having good knowledge of certification examination.[A href="http://sapcertifications.ol-edu"] Any one interested to do Genuine SAP Certifications test for Free for all modules you can find at <a href="http://sapcertifications.ol-edu.com.All" title="http://sapcertifications.ol-edu.com.All" target="_blank">http://sapcertifications.ol-edu.com.All</a> the test materials are prepared by SAP Certified Consultants by SAP AG, who performed Certification training programs at SAP Authorized Training center(ATC) in respective modules and having good knowledge of certification examination.

]]> By: Wendy http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-747 Wendy Wed, 11 Jun 2008 09:45:41 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/14/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-747 Hi I came across this blog and my observation is there is no big deal, truly speaking on what is the textbook definition of training and education as long as SAP authorizes a partner to provide training (looks odd to write "provide education")for SAP consultants. Demir, I am singaporean and have gone to Genovate HQ in Singapore to enquire with my bf for SAP Training (not education :-)courses. And for your information, I even noticed a trophy from SAP to Genovate where it mentions Genovate as a Authorized Training partner. What better authenticity to prove this? I even took your word and went to SAP.com to check if what you are saying is true that genovate was not mentioned as a partner - save for the fact that the word training which i feel associated with Education i did see a mention of SAP Education Partners where Genovate was mentioned. So Demir as a customer to SAP products and training, i feel you should be venting out your frustration on "in your terms" the Unauthorized Education Partners instead of targetting "in most ways acceptable even to SAP" the authorized Centres. Hi
I came across this blog and my observation is there is no big deal, truly speaking on what is the textbook definition of training and education as long as SAP authorizes a partner to provide training (looks odd to write “provide education”)for SAP consultants.
Demir, I am singaporean and have gone to Genovate HQ in Singapore to enquire with my bf for SAP Training (not education :-)courses.
And for your information, I even noticed a trophy from SAP to Genovate where it mentions Genovate as a Authorized Training partner. What better authenticity to prove this?
I even took your word and went to <a href="http://SAP.com" title="http://SAP. " target="_blank">SAP.com</a> to check if what you are saying is true that genovate was not mentioned as a partner - save for the fact that the word training which i feel associated with Education i did see a mention of SAP Education Partners where Genovate was mentioned.
So Demir as a customer to SAP products and training, i feel you should be venting out your frustration on “in your terms” the Unauthorized Education Partners instead of targetting “in most ways acceptable even to SAP” the authorized Centres.

]]> By: Demir Barlas http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-745 Demir Barlas Mon, 19 May 2008 20:07:54 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/14/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-745 My argument was that SAP Education is not the same as SAP Training as marketed by third-party training companies. SAP Education is targeted to existing end users whereas it seems that most Training courses are bought by IT people aspiring to break into SAP (partly under the misapprehension that SAP has official Training/Certification, as opposed to Education, partners). Best, Demir Barlas Site Editor My argument was that SAP Education is not the same as SAP Training as marketed by third-party training companies. SAP Education is targeted to existing end users whereas it seems that most Training courses are bought by IT people aspiring to break into SAP (partly under the misapprehension that SAP has official Training/Certification, as opposed to Education, partners).

Best,

Demir Barlas
Site Editor

]]> By: Sanjay http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-746 Sanjay Mon, 19 May 2008 18:40:26 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/14/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-746 I've always relied on this site to provide accurate/quality information. This article seems an exception. Here is a training/education schedule published not on SDN but on SAP.com http://www.sap.com/asia/services/education/schedule/schedule_IN.htm P.S. I've no affiliation to any training partner, just interested in quality information. I’ve always relied on this site to provide accurate/quality information. This article seems an exception.
Here is a training/education schedule published not on SDN but on <a href="http://SAP.com" title="http://SAP. " target="_blank">SAP.com</a> <a href="http://www.sap.com/asia/services/education/schedule/schedule_IN.htm" title="http://www.sap.com/asia/services/education/schedule/schedule_IN.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sap.com/asia/services/educati…</a>
P.S. I’ve no affiliation to any training partner, just interested in quality information.

]]> By: abhi http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-744 abhi Sat, 17 May 2008 02:49:07 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/14/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-744 Hi Demir, I follow this site regularly and generally receive lot of good advice. However, I would point out that I do find some of the information just wrong. As in this case, it is my understanding that SAP has few educational partner in Asia pacific region including India <a href="http://www.sap.com/asia/services/education/centres/partners.epx " rel="nofollow">http://www.sap.com/asia/services/education/centres/partners.epx </a>. In fact, One of my friend contacted SAP sometime back to become an authorized SAP Education partner in US. But he was denied saying that SAP does not partner for education in North American region but does partner in other regions. I am not associated with any of these partners and I do appreciate you taking time to point things to help SAP community. Thanks, Hi Demir,

I follow this site regularly and generally receive lot of good advice. However, I would point out that I do find some of the information just wrong. As in this case, it is my understanding that SAP has few educational partner in Asia pacific region including India <a href="http://www.sap.com/asia/services/education/centres/partners.epx " rel="nofollow">http://www.sap.com/asia/services/education/centres/partners.epx </a>. In fact, One of my friend contacted SAP sometime back to become an authorized SAP Education partner in US. But he was denied saying that SAP does not partner for education in North American region but does partner in other regions. I am not associated with any of these partners and I do appreciate you taking time to point things to help SAP community.

Thanks,

]]> By: ygs http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-743 ygs Sat, 17 May 2008 02:43:39 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/14/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-743 I have 6 years of domain experience in Human Resource, and about 2 years in SAP HCM. Ironically, when I apply for jobs no company considers my domain knowledge. I wonder, was it a waste of time to gain domain experience? On the other hand, firms demand 2 lifecycles experience within 2 years. Aren't these conditions the reasons for higher number of fake resumes in the job market? Employers, please consider candidate's all type of experiences and scrutinize the interview process to abstract authentic information from what they claim in domain experience instead forcing them to increase their SAP experience on paper. After all, who is the looser if such candidate is hired? I have 6 years of domain experience in Human Resource, and about 2 years in SAP HCM. Ironically, when I apply for jobs no company considers my domain knowledge. I wonder, was it a waste of time to gain domain experience? On the other hand, firms demand 2 lifecycles experience within 2 years. Aren’t these conditions the reasons for higher number of fake resumes in the job market? Employers, please consider candidate’s all type of experiences and scrutinize the interview process to abstract authentic information from what they claim in domain experience instead forcing them to increase their SAP experience on paper. After all, who is the looser if such candidate is hired?

]]> By: sim http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-742 sim Thu, 15 May 2008 19:21:45 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2008/05/14/the-sap-training-lie/#comment-742 I have about a year of BW/BI experience. If there truly is a shortage of SAP skills then why do most jobs I apply for ask for 4 years minimum experience and atleast 2 lifecycles? I have about a year of BW/BI experience. If there truly is a shortage of SAP skills then why do most jobs I apply for ask for 4 years minimum experience and atleast 2 lifecycles?

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