Comments on: New SAP certification options http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/ A SearchSAP.com blog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:20:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Ali http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-605 Ali Fri, 28 Nov 2008 04:44:51 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-605 I'm now certified! :) I’m now certified! :)

]]> By: Ali http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-604 Ali Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:04:19 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-604 Hello I would like to say i'm a passerby who happened to come across this page and I think it's really great. Personal experience from senior consultants is what many junior consultants need to hear. I would like to share my sap experience. I too was fresh out of university, with a degree in electronics, then I suddenly decided to do sap since this was in the market in my new area. I am now in Sales & Distribution. I have more then a year experience and seriously I am still trying to get thru the certification exam. I sat right after the academy and failed it with a 60%. So a year later i'm preparing for my retake which is in about 20 days. But really guys I suggest you get some experience even from the user side. Right after the academy when I sat for the exam the first question given to me I was like woa what the heck does this mean? It was as if I never read these questions in the manuals. Those questions are tricky times 10. If you don't see the screens in your head yet, then please don't attempt the exam till you get that experience. I am lucky I was given a consultancy job though. But really in my consultancy firm there are many senior people who are still not certified, and they are up the ladder. While juniors who have no experience but are certified are just putting there feet on the ladder. So in some consultancy firms(depends on the country)they don't care of the certification requirement. If you have it then good if you don't "Dont worry we will give you a job so you gain some experience." And there are those consultants who are ONLY book consultants, and then you have your real consultants who give company's real best practices. Good luck guys Hello
I would like to say i’m a passerby who happened to come across this page and I think it’s really great. Personal experience from senior consultants is what many junior consultants need to hear. I would like to share my sap experience. I too was fresh out of university, with a degree in electronics, then I suddenly decided to do sap since this was in the market in my new area. I am now in Sales & Distribution. I have more then a year experience and seriously I am still trying to get thru the certification exam. I sat right after the academy and failed it with a 60%. So a year later i’m preparing for my retake which is in about 20 days. But really guys I suggest you get some experience even from the user side. Right after the academy when I sat for the exam the first question given to me I was like woa what the heck does this mean? It was as if I never read these questions in the manuals. Those questions are tricky times 10. If you don’t see the screens in your head yet, then please don’t attempt the exam till you get that experience. I am lucky I was given a consultancy job though. But really in my consultancy firm there are many senior people who are still not certified, and they are up the ladder. While juniors who have no experience but are certified are just putting there feet on the ladder. So in some consultancy firms(depends on the country)they don’t care of the certification requirement. If you have it then good if you don’t “Dont worry we will give you a job so you gain some experience.” And there are those consultants who are ONLY book consultants, and then you have your real consultants who give company’s real best practices. Good luck guys

]]> By: Best Erp http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-603 Best Erp Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:12:57 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-603 <strong>Best Erp</strong> Thanks for creating this blog. I thought it was a very interesting read. It is so interesting reading other peoples personal take on a subject. <strong>Best Erp</strong>

Thanks for creating this blog. I thought it was a very interesting read. It is so interesting reading other peoples personal take on a subject.

]]> By: Pete Wang http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-602 Pete Wang Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:49:01 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-602 I am a certified BI solution consultant. I know how tough the test is. I do believe that there are senior BI consultants who fail the test. On the other hand, I also do believe that there are certified BI consultants who do not know how to properly activate a business content object, or how to get to the error message when a process chain fails in order to determine the cause of the failure. Or, they would back out if you put them in front of the Query Designer and ask them to set up query that tells whether the top 20 customers are buying as much as they did last year at this time. Certification is a reference point but not everything. I am a certified BI solution consultant. I know how tough the test is. I do believe that there are senior BI consultants who fail the test. On the other hand, I also do believe that there are certified BI consultants who do not know how to properly activate a business content object, or how to get to the error message when a process chain fails in order to determine the cause of the failure. Or, they would back out if you put them in front of the Query Designer and ask them to set up query that tells whether the top 20 customers are buying as much as they did last year at this time. Certification is a reference point but not everything.

]]> By: sapwannabe http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-601 sapwannabe Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:28:43 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-601 My experience has been that those SAP professionals who have commented that "sap certification" does not matter....are the same individuals who do not have the certification....TAKE the test...I have witnessed, many senior consultants walk out of the test very upset after not passing the test....experience is great...but if you don't understand the basics....you are just another project team member talking trash. My experience has been that those SAP professionals who have commented that “sap certification” does not matter….are the same individuals who do not have the certification….TAKE the test…I have witnessed, many senior consultants walk out of the test very upset after not passing the test….experience is great…but if you don’t understand the basics….you are just another project team member talking trash.

]]> By: Pete Wang http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-600 Pete Wang Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:58:49 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-600 Certification is a reference point. Between a consultant who tells me what he knows about SAP Portal and another one who shows me his SAP Portal certification, I would feel more confident to go with the one who is certified. If you know SAP's certification program, you will understand my decision. It is not easy to succeed in a certification test. You have more than two thousand pages to read and the questions, although multiple-choices, are pretty tricky. So, reading the course alone is not enough to ensure success. You have to understand and, more importantly, to be able to master the subject i.e. to remember accurately what you read; because usually the multiple choices differ only by a shade. And the best way to master a subject is a lot of hands-on or, namely, experience. In fact, SAP consultants should not take a certification test just for the sake of being certified. It should be the confirmation of their experience on a specific topic. The challenge for SAP then is to filter out those who use their memory to remember and keep only those who use their experience to get through. That is probably what the "new certifications the type of questions" are all about. Pete Certification is a reference point. Between a consultant who tells me what he knows about SAP Portal and another one who shows me his SAP Portal certification, I would feel more confident to go with the one who is certified. If you know SAP’s certification program, you will understand my decision. It is not easy to succeed in a certification test. You have more than two thousand pages to read and the questions, although multiple-choices, are pretty tricky. So, reading the course alone is not enough to ensure success. You have to understand and, more importantly, to be able to master the subject i.e. to remember accurately what you read; because usually the multiple choices differ only by a shade. And the best way to master a subject is a lot of hands-on or, namely, experience. In fact, SAP consultants should not take a certification test just for the sake of being certified. It should be the confirmation of their experience on a specific topic. The challenge for SAP then is to filter out those who use their memory to remember and keep only those who use their experience to get through. That is probably what the “new certifications the type of questions” are all about.
Pete

]]> By: RussJ http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-599 RussJ Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:15:34 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-599 It is a mixed bag. I have studied for other certifications in the past for material that I've been experienced in for years, like Oracle DBA etc., and quickly realized by studying material that I did not know as much as I thought. I think the certification can complement (not replace) the experience and vice versa. It is a mixed bag. I have studied for other certifications in the past for material that I’ve been experienced in for years, like Oracle DBA etc., and quickly realized by studying material that I did not know as much as I thought. I think the certification can complement (not replace) the experience and vice versa.

]]> By: Anil http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-596 Anil Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:47:19 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-596 I agree with most of the above comments on experience talks than the certification. one of my friend did the course and completed the certification in SD. Ofcos, he is new to SAP world but when it comes to the job all asking for experience and he is still jobless after 3 months of his certification. The SAP education center where he did was very responsible during & until he finishes the course. Infact, they informed that they will assist for the placement before joining the course ofcos i agree no guarantee on this but atleast the assistance should be given to the freshers who are spending thousands of dollars which is not a small amount. When following up for the job to the SAP education centre, he got irresponsible answers like "we are not responsible for that" without even trying for the student. SAP should atleast assist with the freshers who are spending money for the real course to do the certification in order for them to get in to a company with atleast some experience. Does this messege reach to SAP management? The money a student is spending can be a peanut to SAP but for that student it is really a big. I agree with most of the above comments on experience talks than the certification. one of my friend did the course and completed the certification in SD. Ofcos, he is new to SAP world but when it comes to the job all asking for experience and he is still jobless after 3 months of his certification. The SAP education center where he did was very responsible during & until he finishes the course. Infact, they informed that they will assist for the placement before joining the course ofcos i agree no guarantee on this but atleast the assistance should be given to the freshers who are spending thousands of dollars which is not a small amount. When following up for the job to the SAP education centre, he got irresponsible answers like “we are not responsible for that” without even trying for the student. SAP should atleast assist with the freshers who are spending money for the real course to do the certification in order for them to get in to a company with atleast some experience. Does this messege reach to SAP management? The money a student is spending can be a peanut to SAP but for that student it is really a big.

]]> By: Dave Thomas http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-597 Dave Thomas Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:54:37 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-597 like most I have been cynical about the SAP certification program for some time. It has added little value beyond a rubber stamping exercise and in some case hampers implementations. The new program is a breath of fresh air as it is focused on delivering a business solution and a technical complient solution. Its motivation is to ensure that SAP is implemented and updated with to requirment of the business foremsot not IT. I for one praise SAP for having its eye on tomorrow, with what is an attempt to position and support its products and solutions with the business community like most I have been cynical about the SAP certification program for some time. It has added little value beyond a rubber stamping exercise and in some case hampers implementations.

The new program is a breath of fresh air as it is focused on delivering a business solution and a technical complient solution. Its motivation is to ensure that SAP is implemented and updated with to requirment of the business foremsot not IT. I for one praise SAP for having its eye on tomorrow, with what is an attempt to position and support its products and solutions with the business community

]]> By: Kent http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/sap-watch/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-598 Kent Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:06:22 +0000 http://sap.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/10/02/new-sap-certification-options/#comment-598 If I read Sai correctly, he wrote the BI exam. And he is just out of college? Where is the practical experience? If this is indeed correct we have an exam written by a person who is "green" in the SAP world. This smacks of a money grab by SAP if you ask me. If I read Sai correctly, he wrote the BI exam. And he is just out of college? Where is the practical experience? If this is indeed correct we have an exam written by a person who is “green” in the SAP world. This smacks of a money grab by SAP if you ask me.

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