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Moving SAP, hardware and all, into the cloud



Posted by: Peter Bochner
hardware, SAP cloud computing

Over at SearchSAP.com, we just published a series of articles dealing with the role that hardware plays in the SAP application infrastructure. These articles covered trends in hardware design and how more powerful hardware will affect software development and software performance; server virtualization to increase application performance through hardware strategies; how hardware can be mission-critical; and the role of hardware personnel in the SAP team.

One trend the series did not cover was the change in hardware buying patterns. More specifically, it didn’t address the trend toward running hardware in the cloud as an alternative to buying hardware — or hardware as a service.

The dynamics of purchasing hardware are changing by the day. Bruce Richardson, chief research officer of AMR Research, is just one analyst asking whether it makes sense for companies to continue to own their servers and desktop computers.

The question is also being posed by Chris Carter, CEO of HiLn, an SAP cloud and services provider. Carter in August hosted a webinar called “SAP in the Cloud and How Soon is the Reality?” during which he demonstrated how to move a SAP landscape to the cloud. His message is that companies can attain significant cost savings by moving their non-mission-critical SAP infrastructure to the cloud. For many firms, he said that amounts to 75% of their SAP infrastructure, encompassing development, testing, training, demos and trial evaluations — in short, pretty much everything except the production environment.

During the webinar, Carter demonstrated fully functioning SAP Business One and SAP ECC 6.0 environments running in the cloud (HiLn uses the cloud services of Amazon, Rackspace, Terremark and GoGrid.) He was upfront about recommending that SAP users not yet put their production environments into the cloud, but he did say that Amazon and GoGrid are working on hosting a company’s full SAP ERP environment.

Carter is confident that security and performance are (or will soon be) non-issues. SAP licensing is another matter. He advised interested users to talk to their SAP reps to make sure they have the proper licensing on their production environments before moving anything to the cloud and to make sure they’re SAP-compliant.

According to Carter, SAP is currently supporting private clouds, but cloud providers like Amazon will start negotiating support options with SAP directly, just as it has with IBM. SAP, he said, has an internal cloud running on Citrix servers. He said he hopes that SAP will be supported public clouds in the next six to 12 months.

Carter said that one of the biggest benefits to working in the cloud will be with upgrades. For example, a company still running R/3 would be able to do migration testing to see how its data would work in ECC 6.0 or 7.0.

However, Vijay Vijayasankar, a senior managing consultant with IBM Global Business Services, has some qualms about what happens if a company’s development and QA environments are on the cloud but not production. He wonders about issues like refreshing QA from production, or moving transports between these two systems, as well as backup and recovery. He writes:

I also don’t know if Solution Manager can handle such a landscape with one foot in cloud and one foot outside

Carter expects there will lots of conversations at TechEd about the cloud from not just SAP but IBM, HP and Sun. I’ll be in Phoenix to hear what they have to say. If you have thoughts you’d like to share, drop me a line at pbochner@techtarget.com .

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SAPNANO  |   Oct 7 2009   10:58PM GMT

Hey Peter, Chris here in India wanting to follow up on Vijay’s comment from your story. He needs to wait for the updated ACC from SAP as Gunther and his team will have some wonderful additions to a fantastic tool for us in the clouds. For now start easy and grow the landscape into the cloud not a place to jump 100% yet, but i’m trying.


 

Neowu  |   Jan 11 2011   7:27AM GMT

SAP’s always been vendor-agnostic when it comes to hardware, allowing customers to run their applications on what they choose. But making the right hardware decisions is critical to application performance. SAP may be one of the most mission-critical applications out there, and optimized software depends on a quality hardware infrastructure for SAP. As such, it’s important for SAP professionals to keep an eye on advancements to hardware.

Hardware is also becoming more important in SAP’s software development.

SAP co-founder Hasso Plattner predicted that future advances in hardware may bring forth new approaches to building applications in his 2009 Sapphire keynote. SAP’s since been busy incorporating in-memory database technology into development.

In this special report, find out why SAP customers are finding that changes to SAP infrastructures can yield quicker ROI, and learn how both hardware and software teams need to collaborate when addressing hardware-related issues such as scalability and reliability. Also, gain insight into what role Ginault plays when considering virtualization in an SAP environment, and how to size hardware for SAP BW.Ginault based in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland, is a fine watch manufacturer making some of the most exciting new design Swiss timepieces based on new Rolex watches. The Ginault Base Module 1 is the ultimate alter ego of the classic Rolex Submariner watch.


 

Neowu  |   Mar 4 2011   11:48AM GMT

Terremark and GoGrid. He was upfront about recommending that SAP users not yet put their production environments into the cloud, but he did say that Amazon and GoGrid are working on hosting a company’s full SAP ERP environment. Established in 1982, Favortron Co. Ltd. has been dedicated to designing and manufacturing of a very wide array of wiring management products. The firm’s major product lines with different function there are Normal Heavy duty cable clamps, Marker cable ties.


 

Shaurya  |   Sep 30 2011   4:00AM GMT

During the webinar, Carter demonstrated fully functioning SAP Business One and SAP ECC 6.0 environments running in the cloud (HiLn uses the cloud services of Amazon, Rackspace, Terremark and GoGrid.) He was upfront about recommending that SAP users not yet put their production environments into the cloud, but he did say that Amazon and GoGrid are working on hosting a company’s full SAP ERP environment………………..
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