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		<title>By: rockleadme</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/windows-services-connecting-to-iseries/#comment-66183</link>
		<dc:creator>rockleadme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Slack400!!!

Sheduled maintenance is no problem as we are aware of it and we shut down the services manually and everything is fine. However in events where the batch processing is running longer than usual, the subsystems are down and the services kick off and there you go....they become un responsive and needs a server restart to bring things back to normal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Slack400!!!</p>
<p>Sheduled maintenance is no problem as we are aware of it and we shut down the services manually and everything is fine. However in events where the batch processing is running longer than usual, the subsystems are down and the services kick off and there you go&#8230;.they become un responsive and needs a server restart to bring things back to normal.</p>
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		<title>By: slack400</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/windows-services-connecting-to-iseries/#comment-66084</link>
		<dc:creator>slack400</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure. I&#039;ve had a couple of instances when a W2K3 server is running a service for an application that would sound similar to the issue you&#039;re reporting. Services or applications would hang or bomb out if the link to the AS400 was down for any extended periods of time during maintenance or backups.

So what we would do is grant the AS400 admin or operator admin rights to the W2K3 server. Then whenever AS400 maintenance was to be performed the admin would log onto the W2K3 box either interactively using a Remote Desktop Connection (RDC) from a PC. 
Or Using the Admin Tools on a PC point to the W2k3 box and stop the necessary service before continuing on with the AS400 work. 
Sometimes you cant&#039; talk your Windows admins into giving you full admin rights to use the RDC, but if you can get access to the services then that should be sufficient using the admin tools.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/getstarted/remoteintro.mspx&quot;&gt;RDC&lt;/a&gt;
Read section: Connect your remote computer to the host computer

&lt;a href=&quot;http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308423&quot;&gt;Admin Tools (Services)&lt;/a&gt;
Read section: How to Use Computer Management on a Remote Computer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure. I&#8217;ve had a couple of instances when a W2K3 server is running a service for an application that would sound similar to the issue you&#8217;re reporting. Services or applications would hang or bomb out if the link to the AS400 was down for any extended periods of time during maintenance or backups.</p>
<p>So what we would do is grant the AS400 admin or operator admin rights to the W2K3 server. Then whenever AS400 maintenance was to be performed the admin would log onto the W2K3 box either interactively using a Remote Desktop Connection (RDC) from a PC.<br />
Or Using the Admin Tools on a PC point to the W2k3 box and stop the necessary service before continuing on with the AS400 work.<br />
Sometimes you cant&#8217; talk your Windows admins into giving you full admin rights to use the RDC, but if you can get access to the services then that should be sufficient using the admin tools.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/mobility/getstarted/remoteintro.mspx">RDC</a><br />
Read section: Connect your remote computer to the host computer</p>
<p><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308423">Admin Tools (Services)</a><br />
Read section: How to Use Computer Management on a Remote Computer</p>
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		<title>By: rockleadme</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockleadme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The daily saves are not a problem its just the weekly full system saves which kills the subsystems.

Somehow I just finished writing Java program to check if any specific subsystem i down and if that is the case i would not fire up the authentication sevice on window.

Just thinking any other way to do this....suggestions???

To Slack400: Can you please elaborate &quot;You can then use RDC or admin tools from your PC to shutdown the service before you kick off a opt 21&quot;

thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The daily saves are not a problem its just the weekly full system saves which kills the subsystems.</p>
<p>Somehow I just finished writing Java program to check if any specific subsystem i down and if that is the case i would not fire up the authentication sevice on window.</p>
<p>Just thinking any other way to do this&#8230;.suggestions???</p>
<p>To Slack400: Can you please elaborate &#8220;You can then use RDC or admin tools from your PC to shutdown the service before you kick off a opt 21&#8243;</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: slack400</title>
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		<dc:creator>slack400</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Modify your backup job so that subsystems and TCP services aren&#039;t ended.
Utilized the Save while active feature built into the backup commands.

I don&#039;t miss the pain of shutting down subsystems for nightly&#039;s.

Then you&#039;re only down when you&#039;re running full system saves (annually or more) Then you&#039;ll have to schedule these outages with your windows server admin so they can kill this authentication service.

IF necessary they can give you admin rights to the windows services on that box.
You can then use RDC or admin tools from your PC to shutdown the service before you kick off a opt 21.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modify your backup job so that subsystems and TCP services aren&#8217;t ended.<br />
Utilized the Save while active feature built into the backup commands.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t miss the pain of shutting down subsystems for nightly&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Then you&#8217;re only down when you&#8217;re running full system saves (annually or more) Then you&#8217;ll have to schedule these outages with your windows server admin so they can kill this authentication service.</p>
<p>IF necessary they can give you admin rights to the windows services on that box.<br />
You can then use RDC or admin tools from your PC to shutdown the service before you kick off a opt 21.</p>
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		<title>By: rockleadme</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/windows-services-connecting-to-iseries/#comment-65819</link>
		<dc:creator>rockleadme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The iSeries server is up however the subsystems are not so Ping would not resolve this problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iSeries server is up however the subsystems are not so Ping would not resolve this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: mshen</title>
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		<dc:creator>mshen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can create a script to ping the server first then start/stop the service or application.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://customerfx.com/pages/crmdeveloper/2008/05/19/ping-a-remote-server-using-vbscript.aspx&quot;&gt;This link&lt;/a&gt; is a good reference for creating the VB script.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can create a script to ping the server first then start/stop the service or application.</p>
<p><a href="http://customerfx.com/pages/crmdeveloper/2008/05/19/ping-a-remote-server-using-vbscript.aspx">This link</a> is a good reference for creating the VB script.</p>
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