What happened in the IBM RPG market?

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I was active in this market for 10 years, and attained a high degree of competency - cranking out business systems on behalf of mainly blue chip clients. But it all came to a stop in 2002. Was this a political matter, an outsourcing matter? Or a technology change matter (I am now open source oriented).

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I should say I am talking about the United Kingdom, and the decline soon after a Labour government was elected in 1997.

much of it comes from the outsourcing. i have a client who outsourced their call center to india…..8 months later, india outsourced the call center that they were running, to pakistan.

no joke. two countries which are great rivals, if not enemies, outsourcing to each other because they could do it “cheaper” than the original contract. this way, india got the contract, then outsourced it. they made money on the contract then on the cheaper labor.

i still get the occasional inquiry from the UK, ireland, and other european countries, generally dealing with contracting me for my JD Edwards knowledge.

-Sarge

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  • Jorjun
    As I suspected, the pseudo socialist government decided that our jobs could be exchanged for cheaper foreign labour and we could go to hell. Do you happen to know ether the race to the bottom has finished, yet? I am currently involved in technology transfer again, so I wonder how long I have before I have to face unemployment again in the face of cheaper costs abroad. Cheaper abroad of course, because there is less tax and social benefits abroad - less 'progressive' regimes, let's say.
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  • TomLiotta
    ...pseudo socialist government decided... Huh? How'd that idea get born for this topic? Where does 'government' come into business decisions over out-sourcing? Does the government make those decisions for businesses in the UK? In the USA, such decisions would be made through business owners, i.e., executives and management. Since out-sourcing seems to be a big deal in the USA, too, it doesn't seem to be a 'government' decision as much as a 'business' decision. That is, if the government wasn't "socialist", the same decisions would be made. The same jobs would be out-sourced. If the result is the same, there seems to be no point in thinking of it as a 'government' decision. Maybe I need more info to see why it was thought of that way. Tom
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  • Jorjun
    Previous Tory government in UK sponsored IBM training, creating numerous professionals. Last government granted a collossal number of ICT (intra company transfer) visas. The effect of giving in to greedy and anti-social corporations' desire to displace existing labour with cheaper foreign replacements was to decimated the market. Our new government has implemented a cap, despite industry protestations.
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  • philpl1jb
    In the states we can blame two things, the Republicans and the Democrates. Of course, if any other party had serious power, we could blame them too. Companies want to stay in business and make a profit. They will do anything legal to raise profits or be overrun by their competition which will do it. Many of the innovations and inventions are made in the US and UK but the resultant profits are made overseas. We tried moving the manufacturing work to Mexico - it was about four times cheaper but once we'ld done that China was still a lot cheaper. Those aren't the countries where IT goes but the idea is the same. Oooh, the thought Police are after me, this board has helped speed the process. I've provided free information to the enemy. They've given me trinckets in return.
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  • AncientMariner
    If I thought that governments could save jobs, either manufacturing or IT, I would be all for it. I just don't believe it works that way. I have been in the bizness since 1965 and almost never been without work but it is mostly a matter of luck because guys like Tom and Philip are much more competent. I did realize early on that the jobs were all temp jobs and I better make some effort to keep up. Joe
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  • Jorjun
    I very content now, and a new market has emerged to take the place of the IBM midrange. So I am not griping, it was more a curiosity now that I have recovered. It was such a sudden whack at the time. Thanks for responses. If OS/400 ever become open sourced then maybe one day I will come back. I miss the object oriented nature of the system.
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  • philpl1jb
    Weak job market - they all are. Great computer -- extremely relliable, extremely cost effective. Solid hardware, Operating System, Database. Loyal installed base. Phil
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  • Jorjun
    I adore the AS/400. But it really is amazing how many midrange options are out there now. Instead of saving labour costs, corps. should have looked at using technology more effectively. There are lots of innovative and productive ways of doing things that have emerged with the internet - they could only have happened with the internet. AS/400 is a pre-internet era machine. i5 or whatever the name of the week is, I am sure is amazing. But it's still an island.
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  • philpl1jb
    The I-series supports all communication protocols and is used to support many web sites. IBM just forgot to tell the world that this is the best box for all business related tasks. Phil
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