using an AS400 without a terminal

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AS/400
IBM iSeries
I have an iSeries that I haven't used in 2 years. It used to have a terminal as a console which got thrown out in a move. I IPL'ed the machine and hooked it up via ethernet to our network the way it used to be, but cannot ping it. It is on V5.3. I'm sure QINTER starts automatically which should give me the ability to use a Client Access connection, but it doesn't. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I know the QSECOFR password so I can sign on if I had a signon screen.

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OS400, Client Access

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Look at the LCD readout it should be set to BN if it shows BM it is IPL’ng to a Initial IPL Menu. If you set to Normal(N) then IPL there is a chance it will start no System attention Lights then the startup Program will start and if TCP/IP was configured 2 years ago and IP has not changed you may be able to access.

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  • NickHutcheson1
    It seems that the system was configured to use a dumb terminal as the console. The network gods may have changed the paths that were once used to connect to the system. Have you verified the network side is still intact? Have you tried to telnet to it using a host name? Are there any unordinary lights on the control panel? Nick
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  • NickHutcheson1
    Can you get to the IFS? Start, Run, \ipaddressifspath
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  • philpl1jb
    Give us the model number. One of the hardware guys/gals may be albe to 1. Tell you if/how to hook up a PC as a console 2. What you need to buy in the way of an old console. Phil
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  • TomLiotta
    If the system has actually been powered off for two years, you might need a console in order to re-enter the system password (or to request bypassing it). What is the OS version/release? Tom
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  • Yorkshireman
    Tried an ACII connection? A box that old may work direct to the ACII console option of a suitably old Client access - you DO still have the old CD's Used to do this with an old laptop which had a serial port, and use the thick black ascii console wire out the back.. .
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  • RayM
    To Rickmcd: The readout is BN. To MNickHutcheson: It is configured to use a dumb terminal. I'm not familiar with telnet. I tried to connect through System i Navigator but couldn't. To Philpl1jb: Model# 520, Machine type - 9405, Version 5.3.0 To TomLiotta: v5.3 To Yorkshireman: I was using CA 5.7 (i think) on that machine.
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  • RayM
    Also, I have 4 Ethernet ports in the back. I'm not sure which one to use. HMC1 C7-T1, HMC2 C7-T2, T5, T6 I tried all 4 but couldn't ping using any of them. Another problem is now that I IPL'ed it, the only way to shut it down is to push the power button, which is not the best way to turn it off.
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  • NickHutcheson1
    To Telnet: from a pc, start, run, Telnet and the ip address. (telnet 107.11.25.136) if it works, you will get a signon screen. The ports on the back, if you can see a card number, you might could google the card number and determine which is which. I would think T1 and T2 are for HMC. But I am just guessing. It is probably screaming that it cannot find a console. I would try to find a dumb terminal to use as the console. A model 3197 comes to mind although there are many others. 3198 As far as hooking a pc as the terminal, as in lan console, I don't know that it can be configured that way with the control panel, if you even have the lan console card on the system. With it being a terminal console, my bet is that you do not have the card and/or the configuration for a lan console. Again, verify that the network gods still have the config for the system.
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  • TomLiotta
    HMC1 C7-T1, HMC2 C7-T2, T5, T6 IIRC, T6 will be your basic LAN connection. T5 would be an Ops Console. I believe that you will need T6 connected into your LAN at the time of IPL. Otherwise, you're going to get an error on your communications line and won't be able to issue any corrective commands without a console connection. ...to push the power button, which is not the best way to turn it off. True, but you aren't actually running anything; so there's not much chance of messing anything up. Pushing the power button is not much different from running PWRDWNSYS without first bring all services down (which a lot of sites do). If you had connections into servers that weren't ended or batch programs running or other stuff going on, it'd be more of a concern. With nothing really running, just about anything that gets messed up can be fixed later. Tom
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  • TomLiotta
    v5.3 That may be recent enough. I haven't seen how the recent hardware with (more or less) recent OS actually handles extended power outages. I don't think it's quite the same as it used to be, but there aren't a lot of recent boxes that haven't been powered on in two years to test with. We'll see, I suppose. Tom
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  • RayM
    Tom, I powered it off, hooked it up to my LAN and powered it up again, but still couldn't see it. I am taking the easy way out. I just ordered a terminal. Thanks to all who gave their input.
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  • NickHutcheson1
    Ray, I am still interested in the final outcome. Please let us know what happens. I have added this to my watchlist. Nick
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  • RayM
    Nick, I haven't forgotten about you. I got a dumb terminal and the system is up and running. But I still can't see it on the network. Maybe there is a service or something not running that I don't know about. Any suggestions?
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  • TomLiotta
    But I still can’t see it on the network. One obvious question -- can it see other devices on the network? E.g., if you ping the address of a PC on the network, does it see responses? Tom
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  • RayM
    Tom, That system doesn't see anything. I tried to ping a few PC's and it says "Unknown Host"
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  • TomLiotta
    I tried to ping a few PC’s and it says “Unknown Host” Did you ping by host name or by IP address? Generally, you'll get a "Unknown Host” response when a host name is used and DNS can't resolve it to an IP address. I think that earlier releases used some PING coding that would handle anything in the RMTSYS() parameter as if it was a host name before attempting it as an address. (That is, anything except "*INTNETADR" which is what should be used when pinging by address.) That might be true of V5R3. If it is true for V5R3, and you used the RMTSYS() parameter to specify an address, try using *INTNETADR and putting the address into the INTNETADR() parameter. E.g.:
    PING RMTSYS(*INTNETADR) INTNETADR('10.0.1.198')
    But if you used PC names, then it might be some general TCP/IP misconfigurations. Do you have any experience configuring TCP/IP on the AS/400? Tom
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  • RayM
    Tom, I used the IP address originally. I just tried your suggestion with *intnetadr and got "Cannot reach remote system". I am not familiar with configuring TCP/IP. Also, I am not sure which ethernet port to use (I have to verify with IBM). I have T1, T2, T5 & T6. So that might be the problem, too.
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  • RayM
    Problem solved!! I got the answer from IBM. The correct port is T5. Then I had to vary the line on and I am able to access the system through my network. Thanks for everyone's input.
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