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		<title>Configureing DTC in Windows 2008 64 bit clustering with SQL 2008 std 64 bit</title>
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				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read some limited blogs and kb articles about this DTC setup in windows 2008 clustering with SQL 2008.  I like to get some clarification about this DTC setup.    Our shop doesn&#8217;t use distributed transactions but we do use transactional replication.  So our DTC is mostly used in SQL related process and I don&#8217;t thnk it is heavily used under our envirnoment if at all.  </p>
<p>In windows 2008 clustering, when configuring DTC, it will need and ask for an un-used disk.  As I understand, there are two ways to do this.  One is allocate a disk for it and not shared by anything else.  The other is to share the disk with another resouce such as SQL data.  I have a question for each one and will list as follows:</p>
<p>1.  if I were to allocate a disk to just DTC only, how much space should I need considering that DTC is not being used heavily.    What I am going to do is to parttion a raid from the SAN level so a disk with its own LUN# is allocated for DTC.  The rest of the partition from the same raid will be used for SQL data.</p>
<p>2. if I were to configure DTC to share a disk resource with another application such as SQL data, I don&#8217;t have any problem with this setup either.  But once I set up everything for both SQL server and DTC, I see something that doesn&#8217;t look quite right which I will describe in detail below.</p>
<p>In our SAN, we have three sets of RAID which are used as G:data, F:tempdb, E:tranlog,  During the DTC setup using Failover Cluster Management tool in Windows 2008, I will let DTC claims Disk G.   Once the configuration is done, under &#8216;Services and Application&#8217;, it will create an entry and I named it ClusterDTCgroup.  Inside this group, it lists three sources: server name with IP, MSDTC, and the disk G.  Everything works as expected.  </p>
<p>Now I install SQL 2008 cluster and its node (it is an active-passive setup) which is very straight forward.  It also asks for disk storage and since DTC claims the disk G, SQL only sees disk F and disk E but it is ok for now and the setup is successully.   This setup will create another entry under  &#8216;Services and Application&#8217; and I named it &#8216;SQLResourceGroup&#8217; and inside this group, it shows the server name with IP, two disk resouces  and SQL server and SQL agent.  Again everthing works as expected.  </p>
<p>Since the disk E which is claimed by DTC during the DTC setup is also supposedly used for housing the SQL database so I right click on disk E and move it to the SQLResoureGroup I created in the above.   As a result of such move, not only the disk E is moved but also all other resouces under the ClusterDTCgroup are now moved into the SQLResouceGroup.  This leaves the ClusterDTCgroup with no resouces inside.   I understand why all the entries moved because of dependency setup among DTC, Disk E and the server name.  But one thing I don&#8217;t understand is that what the purpose is to have a ClusterDTCgroup exist with no entry inside.  Secondly, If I right click this &#8216;ClusterDTCgroup&#8217; and select &#8216;Manage MSDTC&#8217;.  It will give out error because nothing inside for it to manage.  For this feature to work, I need to move the DTC resource back from the SQLReourceGroup.  Granted, I may not need to use the &#8216;Manage DTC&#8217; feature  since I don&#8217;t know what it is for.  But I think it should follow where the DTC resouce actually is in.  I don&#8217;t know if this is a bug or my DTC setup in this situation is correct or not.  I guess with what I have set up in this DTC setup (shared disk with another resource), did i set it up correctly?</p>
<p>If anyone can give me some pointers, I would be very much appreciated.  </p>
<p>Wingman</p>
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