System i Console Solution for 8203-E4A (LAN or Operations Console)

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We are in the process of replacing our development system with a new 8203-E4A and I have no experience with any console other than a Twinax console. I read in the 520/550 Builder red book that there are several options that can be used. I don't see a need to use a HMC since we will not have a partitioned system and will only be using IBM OS on it. The red book indicates Operations Console can be used on the system via cable feature #0367 to the #2893 WAN. Can anyone give me advice on this connection and can a LAN Console also be configured with this configuration as well? THANKS

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i5/OS on 8203-E4A

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Hi Gary,

We used both methods on a 515 (LAN) and 270 (cable and LAN) and it works fine.

For lan console we use a separated lan adapter (which can be used if primary fails) because when Console is active it will not allow TCP/IP to work on the same adapter so you can’t have the Console and yours 5250 emulations working together . For Cable Attached Console you need the special cable and a PC with serial port and it’s very simple to configure.

Regards,
Wilson

Gary,

I have used both as well and e found that the performance from cable attched console thru a serial interface was a dog.

Gary,

Be aware that the cable attached serial interface could be a dog on performance although it states its connecting at 115K, it still left a lot to be desired.

Regards,

Mark

Hi Gary,

I’ve setup new servers with LAN Console a whole bunch of times so I’ve been through the best and worst (Minutes to hours to get a session up). The best way to do it the first time is with a regular patch cable straight from the PC to the “FIRST” Ethernet port on the E4A. Leave the server powered down until you’re ready. You will need to manually configure an IP, subnet and gateway for the network adapter on your PC. The IP can just be anything in the same subnet as you want the console to be on. Use your main networks subnet and gateway values. Now set up the Operations Console session. Give it a name, Partition 1,, IP, Subnet, Gateway, Server serial number,, The Device ID can stay QCONSOLE,, Set the password for this Console session,, click Finished.
Highlight your new setup from the Operations Console screen and Connect. Now fire up the server.
Watch the passwords! Sometimes it’s asking for the Console sessions password (Whatever you made it) and sometimes it’s asking for the Service Tools password (QSECOFR / QSECOFR). The service tools password will be expired so you’ll need to key in a new one.
If you get a message that says – Authority has not been granted to the partition 1 remote control panel.
Remove it from the selected list? – say No. It will come up again later and work if you say No.
If this all works and you get in your half way there. At this point I disable most of the security around the LAN Console setup or you will not be able to get back in to fix it if you screw it up somehow accept from the front panel (Big Pain). You’ll want to do this right at this point to avoid problems.

Change the panel to “M” Manual.
Select function 21
Sign into DST

Use Dedicated Service Tools (DST)

13. Work with system security
Allow a service tools user ID with a
default and expired password to change
its own password . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 1=Yes

Use Dedicated Service Tools (DST)

5. Work with DST environment

2. System devices

6. Select console

Allow console recovery and console can be taken
over by another console . . . . . . . . . 1

Use Dedicated Service Tools (DST)

5. Work with DST environment

5. Service tools device IDs

1=Create
Create QCONSOLE1, QCONSOLE2 and QCONSOLE3

Use Dedicated Service Tools (DST)

5. Work with DST environment
6. Service tools security data

Selection
7

7. Work with lock for device IDs from SST Enabled

Notice: When you use the Selection 7 and press Enter 7 will cycle from Enabled to Disabled

Use Dedicated Service Tools (DST)

5. Work with DST environment
6. Service tools security data

8. Password expiration interval in days 0 <== Change to Zero

Selection
8

Notice: When you use the Selection 8 you are “Setting” the value you typed to the right of option 8

Use Dedicated Service Tools (DST)

5. Work with DST environment
6. Service tools security data

9. Maximum sign-on attempts allowed 15 <== Change to 15

Selection
9

Notice: When you use the Selection 9 you are “Setting” the value you typed to the right of option 9

Use Dedicated Service Tools (DST)

5. Work with DST environment
6. Service tools security data

10. Duplicate password control 0 <== Change to Zero

Selection
10

Notice: When you use the Selection 10 you are “Setting” the value you typed to the right of option 10

Change front panel back to 01 B N or whatever it was.

Wait until you have the server up on your network and you can open up a regular session before you try to move the LAN Console connection onto the network (If that is what you’re going to do).
This way you can use a regular session to help troubleshoot if you are having trouble with the Console connection. We usually do move the Console to the network so that we can access it from multiple PCs. It’s just a matter of plugging that first Ethernet port into your switch.

Note: When you create an Operations Console session on your PC an entry will be added to the HOSTS file on that PC. If you want to change the IP address of the session or want to delete and reuse the same name you will need to delete the HOSTS file entry.
This is the path to the HOSTS file on your PC: C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts
The entry looks something like this: 192.168.1.100 POWER6
You should use NotePad to open and edit this file.

Voodoo

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  • hafwhit
    Wilson thanks for the response. If I understand you comment correctly, a PC setup as a console would be on a unique sub-net from any other workstations and connected to a unique Ethernet port on the server. I understand from some documentation I read that it is possible to setup multiple PC's as consoles but only one could be active at a time as a Console. If none are active as a Console can they be used as a normal workstation? Would a PC have to be connected to the special cable at all times or could the cable be disconnected? I would like to be able to use a laptop to connect to the cable and use only when needed. Can a USB to Serial cable be used for the connection? I have used one in the past for connecting to Cisco firewalls for setup and had no problems. Serial ports are not common any more. I don't like spending money on something that will set idle most of the time. I appreciate your comments.
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  • Rbogar
    We tried a USB-Serial adapter from Radio Shack (unknown quality) and found Operations Console would not work with it. You need to make the Ops Console "modem" on a real serial port. Good news is most any leftover PC or laptop with serial port will work
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  • WilsonAlano
    Gary, - You don't need a subnet, just a specific IP for the console. For example, our 515 has normal IP 192.168.32.24 and we have configured (through SST) 192.168.32.25 for the console. - Yes, the best way is use a specific Ethernet port on the server - Yes, you can have many pcs as console but just one active at time. - The cable can be disconnected and connected just when you need it. - Rbogar has an answer about USB adapter. I hope it will help you to decide (I prefer LAN console and for our 515 is all we have) Regards, Wilson
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  • WilsonAlano
    Gary, I've omitted one question. The PC as a Console is just a window with 5250 emulation! If you activate the console (via cable or LAN) you have all functionality of the PC. Wilson
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  • hafwhit
    Thanks for the input. Based on the information I will configure the system order as a LAN console. On the initial setup of the system how do you configure the Console IP address in SST if you do not have any other console? Do you set the PC with a default IP address initially and then change the settings after the first IPL? Is there a document from IBM that steps you through the setup process?
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  • WilsonAlano
    Hi, I did it a few years ago but there is a PDF on IBM site named iphbxbook.pdf that explains all the process but I cant' find it again. Basically the i will be auto configured when Operations Console try to connect to it. Looking on IBM site I found this link http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/iseries/v5r1/ic2924/books/c4155082.pdf It's for V5R1 but will explain almost the same process. I think that with your system i will come some doc about it but you can ask to your IBM sales contact about it. Regards, Wilson
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  • Voodoovw
    Hi Gary, Let me know if you have any questions... Voodoo
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  • hafwhit
    Voodoo, I appreciate your detail in the Console setup. I will keep a printed copy so I will be ready when we set up the system. I am sure that this will help others who may need the same advice. Gary
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  • Voodoovw
    No Problem Gary, I just added this little tidbit too: Note: When you create an Operations Console session on your PC an entry will be added to the HOSTS file on that PC. If you want to change the IP address of the session or want to delete and reuse the same name you will need to delete the HOSTS file entry. This is the path to the HOSTS file on your PC: C:WindowsSystem32driversetchosts The entry looks something like this: 192.168.1.100 POWER6 You should use NotePad to open and edit this file. Vince
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  • Voodoovw
    Hi Gary, I just switched a 520 from a Twinax Console to a LAN Console and recorded the message I wasn't sure of. If you get a message that says - Authority has not been granted to the partition 1 remote control panel. Remove it from the selected list? - say No. It will come up again later and work if you say No. Vince
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  • hafwhit
    Update to new system install. The system came without any software installed (order got messed up somewhere) so I had to call IBM for assistance. I was helped by three techs and was able to get the system up and running. I have configured several different PC's as Operation Console after getting the system up and running. I have one Ethernet port set for the Console and another set for normal TCP/IP connections. Thanks for the advice given by all who responded.
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