Comments on: Seeing where a member is deleted in a journal

By: tsettimo

tsettimo — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:37:28 +0000

An update – I yanked the temp rmvm command realizing that if the execution of the qsys/rmvm command failed within my version of the rmvm command, the monmsg processing in whatever pgm is running the command won’t work.

Instead, I changed the QSYS version of the command to call a validity checking pgm to perform the processing I want.

fyi…

By: tsettimo

tsettimo — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:06:48 +0000

Cwc – Thanks for your response. I am capturing both before and after images.

Pdraebel –

Thanks for your response. I wrote originally that I looked for both DM and MD type entries (under the F code) and couldn’t find them in the output. This seems highly weird which is what led me to thinking it could be visible under another type of view than *TYPE3. But I tried other views and still couldn’t find the DM or MD. Even when I just added a member and then removed it manually.

The suggestion about the RMVM is a good one. I set it up a temp version above the QSYS version (in the system liblist) yesterday to send me a message whenever it’s used.

Thanks again!

By: pdraebel

pdraebel — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:13:22 +0000

There is also a DM entry, that is the actual deletion of the member and the one that should contain the info you are looking for.

By: pdraebel

pdraebel — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:11:16 +0000

Code . . . . . . . . : F – Database file member operation
Type . . . . . . . . : MD – Member deleted

These should be in the Journal

By: pdraebel

pdraebel — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:18:31 +0000

A workaround could be to AUDIT the use of the RMVM command. See who or what uses it through Audit Journaling.

Peter

By: cwc

cwc — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:05:57 +0000

Are you including just the after record image, or both before and after?

By: tsettimo

tsettimo — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:45:36 +0000

Thanks for the input, Ron. But I’m not sure what you’re referring to.

I don’t see anything on either the CRTJRN or STRJRNPF commands where I would ‘exclude deleted records.’ Am I missing something? The only thing being omitted on the STRJRNPF command are *OPNCLO. I don’t think that would affect reporting the removal of a member.

Also, I’m coding in RPG Free and am not setting the compiler option to correct decimal data errors but I’m also not getting dumps when I run my sifting pgm.

Finally, just to be clear, I’m looking for where the member is being deleted, not a record delete.

I’m starting to think that maybe this information is only reported when you use some view other than *TYPE3….I’ll check that next.

I’m still flailing on this, folks, so any input is welcome and much appreciated.