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		<title>By: oldsysadmin</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/restored-journal-receviers-thats-deleted-by-system/#comment-98623</link>
		<dc:creator>oldsysadmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 12:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes. Once the parameter is changed, simply restore the journal receivers desired on the production side. Mimix will not touch them until you change the parameter back to *YES. It&#039;s really simply and there&#039;s no chance for error or messing anything up. Yes they get restored back into the original library they were in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Once the parameter is changed, simply restore the journal receivers desired on the production side. Mimix will not touch them until you change the parameter back to *YES. It&#8217;s really simply and there&#8217;s no chance for error or messing anything up. Yes they get restored back into the original library they were in.</p>
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		<title>By: danmd5systemad</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/restored-journal-receviers-thats-deleted-by-system/#comment-98533</link>
		<dc:creator>danmd5systemad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2011 06:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OldSysAdmin, if i&#039;m able to do the WRKJRNDFN parameter change in &quot;Receiver Delete Management&quot; from *YES to *NO in management system, can i perform restoration of journal receivers in Production Side because i have a tape backup of the journal receivers concerned and will there be any issue with the mimix replication if i restore this tape backup to the Production Library where it was created since from experience, journal receivers can not be restored to any library except to the library where it was created to. Will there be any &quot;unexpected&quot; negative impact on Mimix? I haven&#039;t done this before so im asking it now so that i can have contingency action whenever there&#039;s something &quot;negative&quot; that might happen. Thanks again for your shared thoughts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldSysAdmin, if i&#8217;m able to do the WRKJRNDFN parameter change in &#8220;Receiver Delete Management&#8221; from *YES to *NO in management system, can i perform restoration of journal receivers in Production Side because i have a tape backup of the journal receivers concerned and will there be any issue with the mimix replication if i restore this tape backup to the Production Library where it was created since from experience, journal receivers can not be restored to any library except to the library where it was created to. Will there be any &#8220;unexpected&#8221; negative impact on Mimix? I haven&#8217;t done this before so im asking it now so that i can have contingency action whenever there&#8217;s something &#8220;negative&#8221; that might happen. Thanks again for your shared thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: oldsysadmin</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/restored-journal-receviers-thats-deleted-by-system/#comment-98460</link>
		<dc:creator>oldsysadmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also forgot, be sure to be on the management system (the backup) not your production system. You can not make changes on the production system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also forgot, be sure to be on the management system (the backup) not your production system. You can not make changes on the production system.</p>
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		<title>By: oldsysadmin</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/restored-journal-receviers-thats-deleted-by-system/#comment-98459</link>
		<dc:creator>oldsysadmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WRKJRNDFN lists all your journals (if you have more than 1). The first column is  labeled &quot;Opt&quot;. Enter a &quot;2&quot; to change, then F10 for additional parameters, then page down to the second page. You should see a line &quot;Receiver delete management . . .   *YES          *SAME, *YES, *NO&quot;. Change the value from *YES to *NO and restore your journals receivers. No receivers will be deleted for this journal until you change it back to *YES again then all old ones will be deleted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WRKJRNDFN lists all your journals (if you have more than 1). The first column is  labeled &#8220;Opt&#8221;. Enter a &#8220;2&#8243; to change, then F10 for additional parameters, then page down to the second page. You should see a line &#8220;Receiver delete management . . .   *YES          *SAME, *YES, *NO&#8221;. Change the value from *YES to *NO and restore your journals receivers. No receivers will be deleted for this journal until you change it back to *YES again then all old ones will be deleted.</p>
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		<title>By: danmd5systemad</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/restored-journal-receviers-thats-deleted-by-system/#comment-98360</link>
		<dc:creator>danmd5systemad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 08:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OldSysAdmin, i have this screen shot of WRKJRNDFN :

&lt;pre&gt;                   Work with Journal Definitions (WRKJRNDFN)                   
                                                                                
 Type choices, press Enter.                                                     
                                                                                
 Journal definition:                                                            
   Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . &gt; QAUDJRN       Name, generic*, *ALL...       
   System . . . . . . . . . . . . &gt; BINONDO       Name, generic*, *ALL...       
 Journal  . . . . . . . . . . . .   *ALL          Name, generic*, *ALL          
 Library  . . . . . . . . . . . .   *ALL          Name, generic*, *ALL          
 Receiver change management . . .   *ALL          *ALL, *NONE, *TIME, *SIZE...  
 Receiver delete management . . .   *ALL          *ALL, *YES, *NO               
 Remote journal link  . . . . . .   *ALL          *ALL, *NONE, *SRC, *TGT...    
 Output . . . . . . . . . . . . .   *             *, *PRINT, *OUTFILE           
 Detail . . . . . . . . . . . . .   *FULL         *FULL, *BASIC                 
 User data  . . . . . . . . . . .   *CMD          User data, *CMD, *NONE        
 File to receive output . . . . .                 Name                          
   Library  . . . . . . . . . . .     *LIBL       Name, *LIBL, *CURLIB          
 Output member options:                                                         
   Member to receive output . . .   *FIRST        Name, *FIRST                  
   Replace or add records . . . .   *REPLACE      *REPLACE, *ADD                
                                                                         Bottom 
 F3=Exit   F4=Prompt   F5=Refresh   F12=Cancel   F13=How to use this display    
 F24=More keys                           &lt;/pre&gt;

You mentioned in your reply about Option 2 &quot;option 2 to change it on the system you’re going to do a restore on&quot; .With the screen shot above, where do i apply the option 2 you were mentioning. I really need to restore these journal receivers because one of our senior programmer is doing an investigation trying to track down a previous bank transaction and the restoration of these journal receivers will greatly assist him in his task. The only obstacle in accomplishing this task is the MIMIX journal definition wherein it only has a 1 day retention period for journal receivers. I think this contributes to the deletion of restored previous journal receivers.  If there&#039;s a workaround on dealing with this mimix journal defintion so as to enable the restoration of previous journal receivers without  exposing the replication function of mimix to any risk, then so much the better. Thanks for your shared thoughts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OldSysAdmin, i have this screen shot of WRKJRNDFN :</p>
<pre>                   Work with Journal Definitions (WRKJRNDFN)                   
                                                                                
 Type choices, press Enter.                                                     
                                                                                
 Journal definition:                                                            
   Name . . . . . . . . . . . . . &gt; QAUDJRN       Name, generic*, *ALL...       
   System . . . . . . . . . . . . &gt; BINONDO       Name, generic*, *ALL...       
 Journal  . . . . . . . . . . . .   *ALL          Name, generic*, *ALL          
 Library  . . . . . . . . . . . .   *ALL          Name, generic*, *ALL          
 Receiver change management . . .   *ALL          *ALL, *NONE, *TIME, *SIZE...  
 Receiver delete management . . .   *ALL          *ALL, *YES, *NO               
 Remote journal link  . . . . . .   *ALL          *ALL, *NONE, *SRC, *TGT...    
 Output . . . . . . . . . . . . .   *             *, *PRINT, *OUTFILE           
 Detail . . . . . . . . . . . . .   *FULL         *FULL, *BASIC                 
 User data  . . . . . . . . . . .   *CMD          User data, *CMD, *NONE        
 File to receive output . . . . .                 Name                          
   Library  . . . . . . . . . . .     *LIBL       Name, *LIBL, *CURLIB          
 Output member options:                                                         
   Member to receive output . . .   *FIRST        Name, *FIRST                  
   Replace or add records . . . .   *REPLACE      *REPLACE, *ADD                
                                                                         Bottom 
 F3=Exit   F4=Prompt   F5=Refresh   F12=Cancel   F13=How to use this display    
 F24=More keys                           </pre>
<p>You mentioned in your reply about Option 2 &#8220;option 2 to change it on the system you’re going to do a restore on&#8221; .With the screen shot above, where do i apply the option 2 you were mentioning. I really need to restore these journal receivers because one of our senior programmer is doing an investigation trying to track down a previous bank transaction and the restoration of these journal receivers will greatly assist him in his task. The only obstacle in accomplishing this task is the MIMIX journal definition wherein it only has a 1 day retention period for journal receivers. I think this contributes to the deletion of restored previous journal receivers.  If there&#8217;s a workaround on dealing with this mimix journal defintion so as to enable the restoration of previous journal receivers without  exposing the replication function of mimix to any risk, then so much the better. Thanks for your shared thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: oldsysadmin</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/restored-journal-receviers-thats-deleted-by-system/#comment-97624</link>
		<dc:creator>oldsysadmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the Mimix management system, do a WRKJRNDFN. Find QAUDJRN and do an option 2 to change it on the system you&#039;re going to do a restore on. Then change the Receiver delete management . . .   *YES  to *NO. Now Mimix will not delete the receivers automatically. When you are finished with the receivers you&#039;ve reloaded, change the parameter back to *YES and Mimix will delete any that you&#039;ve reloaded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the Mimix management system, do a WRKJRNDFN. Find QAUDJRN and do an option 2 to change it on the system you&#8217;re going to do a restore on. Then change the Receiver delete management . . .   *YES  to *NO. Now Mimix will not delete the receivers automatically. When you are finished with the receivers you&#8217;ve reloaded, change the parameter back to *YES and Mimix will delete any that you&#8217;ve reloaded.</p>
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		<title>By: tomliotta</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/restored-journal-receviers-thats-deleted-by-system/#comment-97564</link>
		<dc:creator>tomliotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;How do i determine whether the journal was created having what you mentioned...&lt;/i&gt;

For those specific elements, the simplest method is probably the WRKJRNA (Work with Journal Attributes) command. Enter the command with library/journal name. The resulting display should show &quot;Manage receivers&quot; and &quot;Delete receivers&quot; about half way down the screen.

For the unexpected deletion of any object, the best place to start is the system audit journal, QAUDJRN. Auditing should be enabled through the various QAUD* system values, and system value QAUDLVL (or QAUDLVL2) should contain at least *DELETE as one of the &#039;Auditing options&#039;.

In this case, if this site is using MIMIX or any HA replication product, then that product could be configured for synchronization. If an object is deleted on the source system, the replication product may issue a matching deletion on the target system. The target system audit journal should show a &#039;DO&#039; (Delete Object) audit entry that references a program or job from the replication product.

If there is no auditing, then it might be impossible to determine a cause.

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How do i determine whether the journal was created having what you mentioned&#8230;</i></p>
<p>For those specific elements, the simplest method is probably the WRKJRNA (Work with Journal Attributes) command. Enter the command with library/journal name. The resulting display should show &#8220;Manage receivers&#8221; and &#8220;Delete receivers&#8221; about half way down the screen.</p>
<p>For the unexpected deletion of any object, the best place to start is the system audit journal, QAUDJRN. Auditing should be enabled through the various QAUD* system values, and system value QAUDLVL (or QAUDLVL2) should contain at least *DELETE as one of the &#8216;Auditing options&#8217;.</p>
<p>In this case, if this site is using MIMIX or any HA replication product, then that product could be configured for synchronization. If an object is deleted on the source system, the replication product may issue a matching deletion on the target system. The target system audit journal should show a &#8216;DO&#8217; (Delete Object) audit entry that references a program or job from the replication product.</p>
<p>If there is no auditing, then it might be impossible to determine a cause.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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