recycle bin problems

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This is a wierd one. Lately I've noticed that if I delete a few files and they go to the recycle bin later on they will be gone from the recycle bin even though I never emptied it. I'm using Win XP Home Edition 2002 with SP2, and my virus protection is up to date. I tried to test it one time, by deleting files, making sure they were in the recycle bin and then checking later. They disappear fairly regularly in about an hour or so. I looked at the setting for the recycle bin and there is no auto-empty as far as I can tell. Any ideas?? Thanks in advance, Robert

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The only things I can think of is that the recycle bin size is small or the files are quite large and that you’re deleting quite often.

Or that you have a utility that regularly empties the recycle bin, I would check to see what you have running and see if there is something like that, and even check the task scheduler to see if there is a clean up script running from there.

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  • Robert707
    The recycle bin is set to hold almost 4 gig. This just started happening one day. No idea what could cause it. If anyone has some other ideas, let me know.
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  • Bobkberg
    As Nephi1 suggested, have you looked at your task scheduler to see if there are any tasks running? Also, are you running anything like Norton's Protected recycle bin - or some other application that automatically archives stuff in the bin? Just as a test, try the following: Set up a batch file to run on a regular basis (say every 30 minutes) and check the free space on the hard disk by running chkdsk (without the /F parameter) to see if it actually changes when the files are deleted. This will also help identify any file system issues. Let us know, Bob
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  • Robert707
    I have no tasks running in the task scheduler. In the System Configuration Utility I found a couple of odd entries. What's tfswctrl.exe ? or dumprep 0 -u both of those are in the startup section. In the Windows Task Manager there are no unusual applications running. As for the processes, I wouldn't know how to tell what's supposed to run versus what is not supposed to be running. I'm not running any Norton cleanup programs etc. I have Firewall, Virus protection and spyware from my cable modem company running on the computer. I don't think it started happening after I updated that s/w, but it's possible. If I created a batch file that ran chkdsk and then used the task scheduler to run it every 30 mins, how would it help me determine what's going on? I really thought there was something set wrong in the recycle bin, but can't find anything wrong there. Thanks for all the suggestions and keep them coming. If I ever figure it out I'll let you all know what the problem was.
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  • Bobkberg
    Sorry, I should have been more clear. When something goes into the recycle bin, the disk space is not actually freed up. Basically, the directory entry for the file(s) in question is moved to the recycle bin, so that the amount of free disk space stays the same. If the files are really being deleted, then you should see the disk usage drop and the amount of free space increase by the same amount - that is, the files that have disappeared. By running chkdsk on a regular basis, you'll have a timeline of what is happening with respect to this. Another thing you might try is getting some of the file watching utilities from foundstone.com or sysinternals.com. Bob
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  • Nephi1
    Process File: tfswctrl or tfswctrl.exe Process Name: HP DLA Packet Writing Software Process File: dumprep 0 -u Process Name: "Used in connection with memory dumps" Check the settings of your spyware application. and if you add a "pause." to the end of the batch file, it'll wait for your command to finish. Ie, it needs a key press to continue.
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  • Robert707
    You know, when this problem first occurred I had recently replaced my cable modem and I wasn't told I needed to update their internet security software. I called up today and it turns out there was a privacy manager on there that was set to empty my recycle bin every hour. Can you believe it? All this fretting over nothing !! Anyway, I really appreciate all the great ideas you guys gave me to solve the problem. It's really good to realize it was something I overlooked rather than some horrible system problem. Thanks again and keep up the good work.
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