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		<title>By: whatis23</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/rcvjrne-command-impact/#comment-71067</link>
		<dc:creator>whatis23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would agree that you’re not going to see significant difference. Several companies i&#039;ve worked for have used some sort of HA software which are notorious for using journals and every related cmd possible. That being said, i did not see any noticable impact on performance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that you’re not going to see significant difference. Several companies i&#8217;ve worked for have used some sort of HA software which are notorious for using journals and every related cmd possible. That being said, i did not see any noticable impact on performance.</p>
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		<title>By: tomliotta</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/rcvjrne-command-impact/#comment-70842</link>
		<dc:creator>tomliotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...if you can provide some details in this aspect.&lt;/i&gt;

There are far too many variables and the question is too vague. As noted, there is &lt;b&gt;always&lt;/b&gt; a performance impact every time any program runs. For journal processing, it can be complicated.

In a perhaps ideal setup, you would want your journal receiver in a user ASP consisting of mirrored drives. Also, the user ASP should have no other activity except the journal functions. This allows journal entries to be deposited as much as possible in consecutive disk sectors. There would be essentially no disk arm movement to write next entries. And because it&#039;s mirrored, reads can come from whichever disk has a disk arm closest to the data being sought.

But you rarely see setups approaching &quot;ideal&quot;. Does it describe your system?

If not, then what is your system configuration? How many drives? (How many arms?) What journaling is done? What database activity happens in the same ASP? (How much is journaled?) Is commitment control always active? Sometimes? Never? What kinds of referential constraints exist? (How many of them are actively involved in common activity?) What will your journal entry requests look like? Single entries? Buffered blocks? (How many entries per block?) Will you have individual and separate jobs for each file that entries will be received for? Or will it be one job that will receive all entries and call different programs to process entries for different files? What is your normal CPU usage? Has any performance tuning been applied to the system? What is the usual disk usage? How much extra capacity is available?

Generally, you&#039;re not going to see significant difference. The only good way to get a picture will be to try it. If it isn&#039;t satisfactory, focus on fixing whatever element causes the biggest drag.

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;if you can provide some details in this aspect.</i></p>
<p>There are far too many variables and the question is too vague. As noted, there is <b>always</b> a performance impact every time any program runs. For journal processing, it can be complicated.</p>
<p>In a perhaps ideal setup, you would want your journal receiver in a user ASP consisting of mirrored drives. Also, the user ASP should have no other activity except the journal functions. This allows journal entries to be deposited as much as possible in consecutive disk sectors. There would be essentially no disk arm movement to write next entries. And because it&#8217;s mirrored, reads can come from whichever disk has a disk arm closest to the data being sought.</p>
<p>But you rarely see setups approaching &#8220;ideal&#8221;. Does it describe your system?</p>
<p>If not, then what is your system configuration? How many drives? (How many arms?) What journaling is done? What database activity happens in the same ASP? (How much is journaled?) Is commitment control always active? Sometimes? Never? What kinds of referential constraints exist? (How many of them are actively involved in common activity?) What will your journal entry requests look like? Single entries? Buffered blocks? (How many entries per block?) Will you have individual and separate jobs for each file that entries will be received for? Or will it be one job that will receive all entries and call different programs to process entries for different files? What is your normal CPU usage? Has any performance tuning been applied to the system? What is the usual disk usage? How much extra capacity is available?</p>
<p>Generally, you&#8217;re not going to see significant difference. The only good way to get a picture will be to try it. If it isn&#8217;t satisfactory, focus on fixing whatever element causes the biggest drag.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: philpl1jb</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/rcvjrne-command-impact/#comment-70809</link>
		<dc:creator>philpl1jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 02:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the system isn&#039;t overloaded, if you&#039;re only capturing a few journal entries, the impact should not affect your other processes.
Phil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the system isn&#8217;t overloaded, if you&#8217;re only capturing a few journal entries, the impact should not affect your other processes.<br />
Phil</p>
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		<title>By: rajsubhyd</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/rcvjrne-command-impact/#comment-70742</link>
		<dc:creator>rajsubhyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Tom and Phil for your answers. To be most specific There are other fiels which are attched to the same journal, we would like to know by extracting the journal entry of 5 or 6 files will this impact anything on the journal performance with respect to the other files, I mean will it be slow in performing journal operations for other files. Appreciate if you can provide some details in this aspect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Tom and Phil for your answers. To be most specific There are other fiels which are attched to the same journal, we would like to know by extracting the journal entry of 5 or 6 files will this impact anything on the journal performance with respect to the other files, I mean will it be slow in performing journal operations for other files. Appreciate if you can provide some details in this aspect.</p>
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		<title>By: philpl1jb</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/rcvjrne-command-impact/#comment-70729</link>
		<dc:creator>philpl1jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[tom&#039;s got it.
The RCVJRNE doesn&#039;t use any of your physical files.  
It might slow down slightly all updates being processed by that journal while it&#039;s running
it would use machine cycles, and could slow down all processes, slightly, while it&#039;s running.
Phil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tom&#8217;s got it.<br />
The RCVJRNE doesn&#8217;t use any of your physical files.<br />
It might slow down slightly all updates being processed by that journal while it&#8217;s running<br />
it would use machine cycles, and could slow down all processes, slightly, while it&#8217;s running.<br />
Phil</p>
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