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		<title>By: hmssl2k</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/qzrcsrvs-too-many-jobs/#comment-87452</link>
		<dc:creator>hmssl2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=%2Frzaih%2Frzaihwhymonitorimpacts.htm&quot;&gt;QZRCSRVS jobs, this may help you.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=%2Frzaih%2Frzaihwhymonitorimpacts.htm">QZRCSRVS jobs, this may help you.</a></p>
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		<title>By: hmssl2k</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/qzrcsrvs-too-many-jobs/#comment-87451</link>
		<dc:creator>hmssl2k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I currently have over 70 of these jobs running.  The only time they create a job log is when one of them has a problem, otherwise no job logs.  The QZERCSRVS jobs come and go all day, all week or all month long.  I have some that go back to 1/1/2011.  These jobs good from different places, here is a screen shot of mine.  No problem here. 

QZRCSRVS    QUSER       582450  PJ        ACTIVE            01/27/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       497834  PJ        ACTIVE            01/26/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       423988  PJ        ACTIVE            01/25/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       350456  PJ        ACTIVE            01/24/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       310785  PJ        ACTIVE            01/23/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       256417  PJ        ACTIVE            01/22/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       181924  PJ        ACTIVE            01/21/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       102098  PJ        ACTIVE            01/20/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       019406  PJ        ACTIVE            01/19/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       942786  PJ        ACTIVE            01/18/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       885484  PJ        ACTIVE            01/17/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       847740  PJ        ACTIVE            01/16/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       793825  PJ        ACTIVE            01/15/11 
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       719665  PJ        ACTIVE            01/14/11]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently have over 70 of these jobs running.  The only time they create a job log is when one of them has a problem, otherwise no job logs.  The QZERCSRVS jobs come and go all day, all week or all month long.  I have some that go back to 1/1/2011.  These jobs good from different places, here is a screen shot of mine.  No problem here. </p>
<p>QZRCSRVS    QUSER       582450  PJ        ACTIVE            01/27/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       497834  PJ        ACTIVE            01/26/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       423988  PJ        ACTIVE            01/25/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       350456  PJ        ACTIVE            01/24/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       310785  PJ        ACTIVE            01/23/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       256417  PJ        ACTIVE            01/22/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       181924  PJ        ACTIVE            01/21/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       102098  PJ        ACTIVE            01/20/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       019406  PJ        ACTIVE            01/19/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       942786  PJ        ACTIVE            01/18/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       885484  PJ        ACTIVE            01/17/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       847740  PJ        ACTIVE            01/16/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       793825  PJ        ACTIVE            01/15/11<br />
QZRCSRVS    QUSER       719665  PJ        ACTIVE            01/14/11</p>
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		<title>By: tomliotta</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/qzrcsrvs-too-many-jobs/#comment-87396</link>
		<dc:creator>tomliotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 23:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The history log shown by the DSPLOG command is unrelated to the joblogs of the QZRCSRVS jobs. I would guess that you aren&#039;t actually getting joblogs from those jobs.

The QZRCSRVS job is the Remote Command/Distributed Program Call host server. It receives authenticated requests from remote systems to run commands or to call programs. IBM has a recommendation that the prestart job configuration for this server be set as MAXUSE( 1 ), and there is some sense to that. But it essentially means that every individual request be serviced in a new job.

If you have some remote app, e.g., Cisco, that&#039;s sending hundreds/thousands of requests, each one should be handled by a new instance of the server jobs. That could give the result that you&#039;re seeing.

You &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; be able to let Cisco Tidal continue to run, keep MAXUSE(1) set for the usual server instances, and also get the number of jobs under control. Maybe.

The properties of QZRCSRVS can be customized through iSeries Navigator. A particular customization for this issue would be enabled through the Subsystems tab of the server Properties. You could set requests that originated from the IP address of the remote system to run in a separate subsystem. That would allow you to set MAXUSE(100) or more for a prestart job entry, but only in the isolated subsystem.

The risk is that there are other apps at the same IP address that are communicating with QZRCSRVS. The server job cannot manage resources that are referenced by remote requests. For example, if some request sets a lock on an object and doesn&#039;t clean up after itself, the lock will remain until that server instance finally ends. And, by reusing the same instance for multiple requests, one request may mess up the environment for a subsequent request within the same instance. Poorly structured remote apps can cause interference.

In any case, if you chose to go that route, it&#039;s shouldn&#039;t be particularly difficult. I&#039;ve done it for other servers, though not yet for QZRCSRVS. It should only require having (possibly creating) a separate subsystem description, adding the QZRCSRVS prestart job entry with appropriate parameters, and changing the Remote Command host server properties to use the new settings for the identified remote IP address.

You should then be able to tune the settings just for that one application, possibly setting MAXUSE(1000) and helping the number drop way down. You should also even be able to get joblogs (if needed) for the isolated jobs by having them use a *JOBD that you copied from the original and modified. It might be worth a try.

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The history log shown by the DSPLOG command is unrelated to the joblogs of the QZRCSRVS jobs. I would guess that you aren&#8217;t actually getting joblogs from those jobs.</p>
<p>The QZRCSRVS job is the Remote Command/Distributed Program Call host server. It receives authenticated requests from remote systems to run commands or to call programs. IBM has a recommendation that the prestart job configuration for this server be set as MAXUSE( 1 ), and there is some sense to that. But it essentially means that every individual request be serviced in a new job.</p>
<p>If you have some remote app, e.g., Cisco, that&#8217;s sending hundreds/thousands of requests, each one should be handled by a new instance of the server jobs. That could give the result that you&#8217;re seeing.</p>
<p>You <i>might</i> be able to let Cisco Tidal continue to run, keep MAXUSE(1) set for the usual server instances, and also get the number of jobs under control. Maybe.</p>
<p>The properties of QZRCSRVS can be customized through iSeries Navigator. A particular customization for this issue would be enabled through the Subsystems tab of the server Properties. You could set requests that originated from the IP address of the remote system to run in a separate subsystem. That would allow you to set MAXUSE(100) or more for a prestart job entry, but only in the isolated subsystem.</p>
<p>The risk is that there are other apps at the same IP address that are communicating with QZRCSRVS. The server job cannot manage resources that are referenced by remote requests. For example, if some request sets a lock on an object and doesn&#8217;t clean up after itself, the lock will remain until that server instance finally ends. And, by reusing the same instance for multiple requests, one request may mess up the environment for a subsequent request within the same instance. Poorly structured remote apps can cause interference.</p>
<p>In any case, if you chose to go that route, it&#8217;s shouldn&#8217;t be particularly difficult. I&#8217;ve done it for other servers, though not yet for QZRCSRVS. It should only require having (possibly creating) a separate subsystem description, adding the QZRCSRVS prestart job entry with appropriate parameters, and changing the Remote Command host server properties to use the new settings for the identified remote IP address.</p>
<p>You should then be able to tune the settings just for that one application, possibly setting MAXUSE(1000) and helping the number drop way down. You should also even be able to get joblogs (if needed) for the isolated jobs by having them use a *JOBD that you copied from the original and modified. It might be worth a try.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: junioras400</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/qzrcsrvs-too-many-jobs/#comment-87362</link>
		<dc:creator>junioras400</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 14:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi i found out what is the problem, Cisco Tidal services account software was the responsible for all this interactive jobs. when i stopped  it ... QZ* jobs disappeared  from system. i have to check with the software provider to fix that. Thank you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi i found out what is the problem, Cisco Tidal services account software was the responsible for all this interactive jobs. when i stopped  it &#8230; QZ* jobs disappeared  from system. i have to check with the software provider to fix that. Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: idean</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/qzrcsrvs-too-many-jobs/#comment-87344</link>
		<dc:creator>idean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 08:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is this due to Authority Failure?  Check your QAudit Journal for AF entries.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this due to Authority Failure?  Check your QAudit Journal for AF entries.</p>
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		<title>By: tomliotta</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/qzrcsrvs-too-many-jobs/#comment-87298</link>
		<dc:creator>tomliotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do the joblogs indicate?

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do the joblogs indicate?</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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