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 Oracle 9i Designer
Do you have any opinions on the use of Designer versus a tool like Erwin or PowerDesigner in handling the following concerns: Database generation Reverse engineering Accurately representing every detail of a database Speed Use for different DB platforms Thanks for any comments.

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ASKED: May 12, 2004  3:29 PM
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Hi. Any of those products will allow you to document at an extremely low level of granularity. Haven't used Designer since 6i (the previous version), but it is strongest for "traditional" data modelers (using information engineering approach) deploying to an Oracle DBMS. It's absolutely brilliant. I especially liked the stored procedure generation aspects and CRUD matrices. However, its not an ideal cross-platform tool. ErWin or PowerDesigner will handle multiple platforms more readily. Reverse engineering and generation should excel on all the products. I'm currently using PowerDesigner 10 on a SQL Server backend and am sufficiently happy with it. If you want a variety of modeling tools (ERD, UML, BPM) in one box, it does a decent job. I'd strongly recommend downloading demos of all of them (which should be available), exploring ease of use, and trying them out against some test schemas. None of them are cheap, so playing with them upfront will be worthwhile.
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Hi.

Any of those products will allow you to document at an extremely low level of granularity.

Haven’t used Designer since 6i (the previous version), but it is strongest for “traditional” data modelers (using information engineering approach) deploying to an Oracle DBMS. It’s absolutely brilliant. I especially liked the stored procedure generation aspects and CRUD matrices.

However, its not an ideal cross-platform tool. ErWin or PowerDesigner will handle multiple platforms more readily.

Reverse engineering and generation should excel on all the products.

I’m currently using PowerDesigner 10 on a SQL Server backend and am sufficiently happy with it. If you want a variety of modeling tools (ERD, UML, BPM) in one box, it does a decent job.

I’d strongly recommend downloading demos of all of them (which should be available), exploring ease of use, and trying them out against some test schemas.

None of them are cheap, so playing with them upfront will be worthwhile.

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Hi.

Any of those products will allow you to document at an extremely low level of granularity.

Haven’t used Designer since 6i (the previous version), but it is strongest for “traditional” data modelers (using information engineering approach) deploying to an Oracle DBMS. It’s absolutely brilliant. I especially liked the stored procedure generation aspects and CRUD matrices.

However, its not an ideal cross-platform tool. ErWin or PowerDesigner will handle multiple platforms more readily.

Reverse engineering and generation should excel on all the products.

I’m currently using PowerDesigner 10 on a SQL Server backend and am sufficiently happy with it. If you want a variety of modeling tools (ERD, UML, BPM) in one box, it does a decent job.

I’d strongly recommend downloading demos of all of them (which should be available), exploring ease of use, and trying them out against some test schemas.

None of them are cheap, so playing with them upfront will be worthwhile.

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I have used occasionally all three tools, but I am not an expert in their use. My response is as follows.

Database generation, Reverse engineering, Accurately representing every detail of a database, and Speed -

All three of them are quite comparable, but there is no clear winner. However, Designer can be used only for Oracle databases, while the other two supports a variety of platforms and databases. They all generate SQL scripts to implement the design. Designer has an impact analysis feature. I do not remember if the other two also have it.

Use for different DB platforms – Designer is Oracle specific, the other two are not.

Sitansu S. Mittra

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