Migrating from Novell 6.5 to Windows ???

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Hi, In the coming weeks I'm going to be migrating our file storage data from a novell netware 6.5 server to a windows 2003 server...basically for financial reasons. And I feel netware and microsoft are moving to far apart and it just doesnt run as smoothly as it used to... My question is what would be the easiest way to do this as far as recreating the logon script and managing permissions on existing folders? I understand that I will have to reconfigure/identify all of my permissions on all folders (pain in the ass) Basically an easy way to map and manage network drives using windows server 2003 or perhaps another OS??? SMS?? I have never used it but I have a copy....I would install it at home but not enough machines...and none to borrow from work or use at work. But really all I am after is an easy way to map and manage these network drives i mean if I have to use some vb script thats ok I guess but just wondering if anyone else has any ideas??? Even a link to a good vbs script for mapping windows drives would be handy??? Also ideas and opinions on migrating from novell to windows would be good aswell.. My current login script under Novell: _______________________________________________ REM Unix Samba reserves U drive IF LOGIN_NAME = "admin" then map root i:=.novell65_vol1.net:map_data EXIT END IF MEMBER OF "BYPASS_SCRIPT" THEN EXIT END IF MEMBER OF "GISGuestgrp" THEN map root i:=.novell65_vol1.net:map_data map root o:=.novell65_vol1.net:data EXIT END IF MEMBER OF "Mobile_User" THEN map root f:=.novell65_sys.net:login map root h:=.novell65_vol1.net:home%login_name map root i:=.novell65_vol1.net:map_data map root n:=.novell65_vol1.net:apps WRITE "Good %GREETING_TIME, %LOGIN_NAME" DISPLAY z:motd.txt PAUSE EXIT END IF MEMBER OF "Consultants" THEN map root f:=.novell65_sys.net:login map root h:=.novell65_vol1.net:home%login_name map root i:=.novell65_vol1.net:map_data map root n:=.novell65_vol1.net:apps map root o:=.novell65_vol1.net:data map root t:=.novell65_vol1.net:plans WRITE "Good %GREETING_TIME, %LOGIN_NAME" DISPLAY z:motd.txt PAUSE EXIT END IF MEMBER OF "Assist" THEN map root f:=.novell65_sys.net:login map root i:=.novell65_vol1.net:map_data map root o:=.novell65_vol1.net:data map root n:=.novell65_vol1.net:apps map root ins s2:=.novell65_sys.net:public WRITE "Good %GREETING_TIME, %LOGIN_NAME" DISPLAY z:motd.txt PAUSE EXIT END map root f:=.novell65_sys.net:login map root n:=.novell65_vol1.net:apps REM ***** SET UP GROUPS FOR GIS ACCESS ***** IF MEMBER OF "GIS_Admin" THEN map root i:=.novell65_vol1.net:map_data IF MEMBER OF "GIS_User" THEN map root i:=.novell65_vol1.net:map_data IF MEMBER OF "GIS_Mtce" THEN map root i:=.novell65_vol1.net:map_data REM ***** SET UP ACCESS FOR GROUP EVERYONE ***** IF MEMBER OF "EVERYONE" THEN rem map root g:=.novell65_vol1.net:images map root o:=.novell65_vol1.net:data map root f:=.novell65_sys.net:login map root h:=.novell65_vol1.net:home%login_name map root ins s2:=.novell65_sys.net:public map root t:=.novell65_vol1.net:plans END IF MEMBER OF "Training" THEN MAP ROOT o:=.novell65_vol1.net:data IF MEMBER OF "Trainees" THEN MAP ROOT o:=.novell65_vol1.net:data END IF MEMBER OF "HR Consultants" THEN map root o:=.novell65_vol1.net:DataADMINHuman ResourcesAurion END rem IF MEMBER OF "IT" THEN rem map root q:=.novell65_vol1.net:IT rem END IF MEMBER OF "SECRETARIES" THEN map root s:=.novell65_vol1.net:businesspapers END WRITE "Good %GREETING_TIME, %LOGIN_NAME" DISPLAY z:motd.txt PAUSE ____________________________________________________________________________________________

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You may want to contact Novell (yes, Novell) and explain your concerns. They may offer some guidance to stabilize whatever issues you have. Possibly for free…Netware is usually a very stable environment for file and print servers. NDS is far more stable than the MS Access – based AD. Supposedly, the next version of AD will be SQL based. I’ve heard that for four years now…..

Here’s a couple of docs from the evil empire that should help you if you still want to migrate.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/sfnmig.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/migrate/novell/migchecklist.mspx

Mapping drives in winders is fairly straight forward. The net use command will do it for you:

net use I: \servershare

The server resource kit has an “ifmember” exe that you could use.

Good luck!
Dave

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  • Dave042
    Here's a few links To start...there is also a link for migration resources on the left side of this first one... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/migrate/novell/default.mspx second link, a solution guide on the right side... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/facts/solutions/migratenovell.mspx Third link is a migration planning guide http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/sfnmig.mspx Fourth link is a knowledge base article entitled "How to Migrate or Deploy a Novell NetWare Environment to Windows" http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;274279 Here is a link of other Microsoft partners but that takes all the 'fun & frustration' out of it. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/migrate/novell/partners/default.mspx This "NetWare to Windows Server 2003 Migration Checklist" looked good & easy to follow... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/migrate/novell/migchecklist.mspx This is a link of possibly helpful webcasts... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/migrate/novell/webcasts.mspx A document entitled "Solution for Migrating File, Print, and Directory Services from Novell NetWare to Windows Server 2003" http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/migrate/novell/novellmg.mspx A freebie d/l Microsoft Windows Services for NetWare 5.03 is at... http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sfn/default.mspx You didn't say if groupwise was to be migrated to exchange, several links for that also. Sorry, I have no advice re: the scripting, nothing on a VB script found during my 30 min search, best of luck to you.
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  • Almac
    Another way to map network drives would be to use a simple script: Set objNetwork = CreateObject("WScript.Network") objNetwork.MapNetworkDrive "X:", "atl-fs-01public" Conversely you could accomplish the same thing using logon scripts applied via Group Policy. A good reference for this can be found at: http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsServer/en/library/8a268d3a-2aa0-4469-8cd2-8f28d6a630801033.mspx
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  • Solutions1
    It sounds hairy doing such a migration without a test machine to validate your work. If in the future you will be acquiring a new server, can you do this project at that time? Alternatively, if you acquire VMware, you can create multiple virtual machines to support migration testing. Indeed, you can use VMware to consolidate underutilized servers to free up a test machine.
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  • Dtorizuka
    You should look at using Kixtart with windows. Gives you more login scripting options. http://www.kixtart.org/ Regards,
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  • DrillO
    wow...poor guy....Last year I got dragged kicking and screeming into the Windows Server arena and away from my Novell box. Unfortunately I had no choice. We have been having trouble lately with some network stuff and another Admin has been screwing things up. I have been spending a lot of time pining for my Novell box. The advice given so far has been really good. Kixtart is great stuff....I've used in several flavours for a long time and it works well. All the best to you.... Paul
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  • Americaptech
    Hello, If you are not concern about the permission very much you can go with http://www.serverelements.com/naslite.php Network Attached Server good for file sharing and perhaps work on permission but at very low level, It's floppy version is free to use. Goodluck Arif
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  • Guardian
    I have held on to my netware long enough and all signals from Finances "Heads"( and i mean literally)Directors is to go SQL like my other backend servers MS that is...
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  • petertrast

    True, AD runs on a Jet DB, but it will never run on SQL. This is an urban legend :) and the explanation is here:

    http://blogs.technet.com/b/askpfeplat/archive/2012/07/23/mcm-core-active-directory-internals.aspx

    And the engine keeps getting better. After attending the Directory Services Master class last fall, it is much easier to understand why Active Directory services was destined to replace Novell. There were good reasons for Novell years ago, but the gap has closed on those.

    I found this while preparing for a Novell migration to Active Directory. I have never been asked to migrate from AD to Novell. And I was not able to find a link for doing so (ok, I only scanned the intial search results).

    Happy migrating to the few unlucky souls who land here looking for answers! :)

    Peter Trast

    www.linkedin.com/in/petertrast 

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