Loading from one I515 to another

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We have 2 I515 systems. One is fully configured and in use. The second is as IBM shipped it with the basic operating system etc. Can I use my SAVSYS and regular saves to load the second system??? There could be a twist in that the second system may have a different primary language.

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AS400 I515 V5R4

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i would not do a SavSys and then restore it.

instead, i would do a save on the production libraries that will be used. for instance:

1) you may not want to restore all of the programmer’s libraries even though they may be
defined as “production”.

2) you SHOULD NOT restore system libraries like QGPL, Q-this, Q-that, only because the
saved system libraries may be at a different release and/or PTF level.

3) you also dont want to restore the printer names, device names, etc. since they probably
will not be the same at both sites, even if the machines are in the same room of the
same building.

-Sarge

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  • TomLiotta
    There could be a twist in that the second system may have a different primary language. A "different primary language"? Different from what? Different from the source system? Different once you put it in service? Are you concerned that you might have difficulty setting this system up because it has a different primary language on it before you restore? Or are you expecting to do all of the setup and then install a new language as the primary language? Tom
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  • JaneS
    The two systems were received identical at delivery. The problem is that IBM sent them with primary language as french instead of english. The main system has been setup and the language changed. I am not sure if the language was changed on the second system. Being a small shop the primary concern was to get the first system up and running. That being done we want to setup the second system identical to the first as a backup for disaster recovery. I am concerned that having a different language on the second system would give us a problem during the restore. Would a full restore from the main system to the backup replace the primary language or would it have to be changed after?
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  • TomLiotta
    Would a full restore from the main system to the backup replace the primary language or would it have to be changed after? Since you will effectively be doing a scratch install, I don't see how the existing language will make any difference. It won't be there once you're done. You have some interesting options (unless this is a seriously time-critical process for you.) You might see if you can use this opportunity to practice a couple DR scenarios. If they are indeed identical, you might want to consider SAVSTG and applying Chapter 13. "How to Restore the System from the Save Storage Media" from the Backup/Recovery guide. Read any such chapter a couple times in order to understand both the importance of doing steps as they are listed and the potential tricky parts that you should prepare for. For example, a "full" system restore will restore communications configurations. Your new system will think that it is the old system using its IP address. You need to be prepared to set the differences that you really want. But what exactly do you want to accomplish? Do you simply want a second system that can act as a DR system? Should it have the base OS and IBM LPPs and be ready for a restore of your libraries, profiles, authorities, etc.? Or should it have your site's libraries already? You might simply install the OS from your SAVSYS. Then install whatever LPPs and anything else you want. This might be a once-in-a-career chance. Anyone can study restores or recreations of PCs, but it's rare for this type of system to have anything but urgency behind it. The experience could be invaluable for planning for your business's future. Consider lobbying management for some leeway in your approach. Or consider the case yourself if it's under your control. Tom
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  • JaneS
    Thanks for the input Tom. I will let you know how it goes.
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  • JaneS
    I have finally finished research and have attempted my first shot at a full restore. I obviously did not read enough because I managed to disable the DST user/password at the point I am ready to start the disk configuration. The licensed internal code has been loaded and the disk initialization is complete. I cannot get to the command line and cannot get into DST to reset the password. One screw up I was not prepared for. I am using a twinax console that is the only device besides a tape drive connected. Do I have to restart the whole procedure to recover? Is the user re-enabled if I do? Any help?
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  • Bweyer
    When you say DST, Did you use QSECOFR or 22222222?
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  • JaneS
    I used the QSECOFR password.
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  • Cogit8
    You sound as if your are on the right track. If you have just completed initializing the load source, then the next step should be to use DST and add the disks (with no steps inbetween). At this point you can't have access to a command as only microcode is installed - but must select Option 3 (Use DST) on the IPL or install the system menu. When prompted for the DST password, the DST user is QSECOFR and password is QSECOFR (uppercase).
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  • JaneS
    Thanks for the info. Here is a tidbit of knowledge. I found out yesterday that our contract with IBM has been renewed so I was able to give them a call. The password was not disabled at that point. It says it’s disabled but is NOT. How cute is that? It was reset to the default QSECOFR DST password. When I tried QSECOFR it put me into the change password screen as if it was a first time load. IBM can be clear as mud sometimes. Thanks for your input. I am back on track.
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