Interactive Indicator goes off on startup using Client Access running thru 5250 HMC

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I need some assistance.  I have a large iseries that has an issues with the Interactive Indicator on Startup.

let me explain, When the system is started out of restricted state a program is called.  While comming up the Interactive light or the "X" is present indicating the interactive session is running.  However, if a message comes on, you must do a <Shift>+<ESC> 6 to see the error msg.  When you hit <Enter> to return to the active session The "X" or the " II " is no longer on.  At this stage you have no idea if the job is still running or not.  Anybody got some ideas?

 

 



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Client Acces, 5250 HMC, PC

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I have never heard of an “Interactive Indicator”. There is an “input inhibited” indicator that shows when the keyboard or session is locked. It goes off if the session allows keyboard entry. Is that what you are referring to ? If so, is the keyboard locked ?

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  • Splat
    Graybeard52, Whoknows is talking about the input inhibited indicator - my HMC 5250 sessions do the same sort of thing. I don't use the HMC 5250 session that much, so the glitch (as such) doesn't bother me that much. I figure if I'm typing and nothing's showing up on the display, it's still input inhibited.
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  • Junky
    We've experienced the same "problem" on the HMC with the input inhibited indicator no longer showing after a message is displayed. We rarely use the HMC except for monthly backups and maintenance. On our BRMS monthly backups (from restricted state), we just have to assume that it is still running after a break message is displayed and cleared. Really don't know if the backup is still going until about 30/45 minutes later when the save messages start displaying at the bottom of the screen. My guess is that it's a bug/ommission on the HMC software side. Like Splat, if we can't enter anything, we assume that it is processing. Would be nice if IBM would fix this "feature" though.
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  • TomLiotta
    If you press <Enter>, does the indicator reappear? Tom
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  • Splat
    TomLiotta, it doesn't on my HMC sessions.
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  • Whoknows
    i have found the only way to know is to press a non-execute key like tab. if the cursor doesn't move then it is still inhibitted. I would really like a solution. The system takes 25 min to power up, and this just complicates the issues. this process is a dailly event. so you can imagine the agravation. thanks.
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  • Splat
    I've got to ask - why are you powering your system up every day?
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  • Whoknows
    I do not powerdown per say, i shutdown certain subsystems so that I can run jobs and
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  • Splat
    I'm only seeing part of your last entry, but if I'm understanding matters correctly you're ending certain subsystems, QINTER among them, to minimise the possibility of user locks. You could create a CL (or CLLE) program that ends the QINTER subsystem, calls the necessary programs, then restarts QINTER. If you don't like that idea (or it doesn't work for your environment) & you'd rather not use the HMC, create a CA session with a unique name & then add a work station entry with that name to a separate interactive subsystem (you may be able to do that with QCTL, but it's been too long since I've done something similar to say for sure).
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  • Whoknows
    Splat, Thanks for your reply. I have actually, we have so many subsystems starting, that we actually call a cl (we created a cmd) , because it has options; however, if you take the defaults, ands press <enter>, whenever you get a error msg. such as a subsystem that is already up, you go, oh, ok, give it a "I' and go your happy way, however, when you comeback to the caling screen, the "Input Inhibited" indicator is off. So. You are scratching your head, going is it still active?. That is my issue, this job runs 20-25 minutes at times, with SLA's at play. Any help or ideas...., thanks
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  • Splat
    I'd suggest monitoring for the messages that are popping up; that way your processes shouldn't be interrupted. I still think you might be well served by creating a separate interactive subsystem with named workstation entries for administrative purposes. Or (and this is something you'd have to research because I haven't done it in ages) created a named CA session and designate it as your alternate console.
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