how to change AS/400 Textbase application to windowslike application

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Hey,
who can give me advice, or has experince, to change an textbase AS/400 RPG & DDS application to an windowslike application?


Software/Hardware used:
AS/400 ---- RPG and DDS
ASKED: April 12, 2010  1:46 PM
UPDATED: May 19, 2010  4:30 PM

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If you are just talking about the UI, you can use CGIDEV2 (free) to present your programs in a browser. You can also get commercial products that will convert your current green screen applications to web pages or let you create your own. Two that I have worked with are Websmart and RPGsp.

That way you don’t have to go through the pain and expense of down grading to Oracle and/or windows

Hello ,
Thank you too for this suggestion.
sadly, i don’t know much about.. ill google this and hope to find more about it.

what are you meaning with “UI” Utilities?

whatever, i talk about a commercial application , witch designed with SDA and RPG.

i want just, to change screen from text based to windowslike…
if i find a solution, without to change or modificate my RPG programs, ill be very lucky.

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  • DanTheDane
    We need more info to give you guidance on this one. - are we talking of the user interface ? or - is it about converting to another platform ? or ... DanF
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  • BERA
    Hello Dan, thank you for your response. both of them. but in the first step, changing user interface. in the next step, we want to converting to another platform. for example, Oracle or SQL ..... than the question is, witch developing environment is the best Solution? C++, WIBA, Java,......PL-SQL....?
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  • TomLiotta
    ...witch developing environment is the best Solution? That depends on what the application currently does. One specific example of difficulty will be any instances of subfile usage. No other platform provides anything that can be cleanly converted to. Generally, each subfile usage must be rewritten using a different technology and often different technique to implement the logic. Subfile logic might be simple, in which cases various forms of lists might be easy to create. Or it might be complex with significant business logic involved in both the input and output sides -- those could be very difficult to convert. Tom
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  • BERA
    Hello Tom, Thank you for your interest and response. You are fully right, no other system treats the subfile like RPG3 RPG400 ... that is why, i love AS/400 iPower. The only thing, what make trouble, is text-based-screen. what i intent to change my application to other system. whatever, i know this from RPGII S/34 and S/36 . and i hope to find a good solution for migration to other systems. i tend toward to Oracle and PL/SQL.... but i am not sure, and therefor i am here to discuss....
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  • TomLiotta
    The only thing, what make trouble, is text-based-screen. The "text-based screen" is only there because that is how it was programmed. I've created GUIs for AS/400 apps since OS/2 and Windows NT, and then Windows 2K and later. Browser-based access has been fairly easy since CGIDEV became available. It was much easier when CGIDEV2 came out. It was possible before either of those, but those two releases packaged things up nicely. Now, with V7.1, RPG Open Access begins a whole new direction with as many possibilities as we can imagine. Tom
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  • YuVa47
    Hi BERA, You can find several very good solutions to 'convert' your text based screens to browser. Here are some good ones: Presto by BCD, Genie by Profound Logic, looksoftware... They are all commercial but reasonable costs. Another good tool is Valence and aXes. You can find all at Google. Now, as Tom mentioned the RPGOA is here and actually Profound Logic have a version (Profound UI) which can be used for OS 5.3 and later. This is very easy and almost no changes need to be made in the RPG ILE programs except to add a keyword in the F workstation line. Good luck with tour decision. YuVa47
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  • Lovemyi
    Bera, I would start by visiting with the vendors at the next Common Europe meeting. There are sessions on webenabling your applications, vendor expos where you can see the products and talk to the representatives directly one on one. The newest thing that was mentioned was RPG Open Access with the new version 7.1 of IBM i OS. Either using a thrid party conversion tool of caturing and presenting the 5250 job stream or moving to redoing the application front ends in one of the many thrid party products on the market are the best way to go frm a business persective if the back end code still meets your business objectives ranther than find, train and install a new set of applications on a new hardware platform. The IBM i is still light years ahead of the other platforms and still the lowest cost of ownership from a TCO perspective. It would be a shame to waste that amount of money to ripe and replace instead of just add a new front end to your working applications and far cheaper. COMMON Europe Conference 2010, 12 to 15 June 2010, Stratford upon Avon, UK Google Common EUROPE and choose the site to see more details. It will really help you to see the products and talk to the experts in taking your business to the next level. Lovemyi
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