How do I get my BIOS to detect a new HDD (HDD was tested and worked)

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Trying to get the BIOS to detect my new HDD, which I know works, but when I try to install XP, it says "No HDD detected, aborting", so I checked the BIOS, and the BIOS dident even detect the HDD, so I check the cables, all is well, I also tried setting the pin to both cable select, and forced master, neither worked, and Iv never worked on a BIOS before, but im sure its the problem. anyone got advice? Emaile me at WeeveFerrelaine@yahoo.com

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Desktop HP, Seagate ATA HDD
ASKED: November 5, 2011  8:09 PM
UPDATED: November 14, 2011  11:04 PM

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you should try to change setting in bios for native mode while installing win xp on sata hdd.
ii should be native mode disable or ide in bios

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  • jinteik
    can your pc support the size of the hard disk you are using? maybe you would like to check the HP website for information.. another method is to bring that hard disk to another computer to see if it is detected.
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  • Weeve
    Yes. the HDD is detected on another computer, and the one im trying to install the HDD on has the capability to store more, its strange because this has never happened to me on my other HDD installs
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  • Pjb0222
    Common ones I see: Is the IDE/SATA channel enabled in BIOS? Some BIOSs also allow individually enabling / disabling drives. Have you tried a second connector cable? For IDE, are you using an 80-pin cable? Is the power connector you are using providing power? (Fun one) Are you exceeding the power supply's rated capacity? Visually check the pins for a bent / deformed one.
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  • Weeve
    All the cabling works, because it worked with the old HDD, but it might be exceeding the power supply limits, but wouldent that just cap the speed and not make it invisible to the BIOS? and what I originally wandered it how to individually enable this drive, because the computer seems to work with only the drive it came with, and none of my other 8 spares.. all working..I re added in the old HDD and it ran fine, so im sure its not the cabling, and power supply makes barely any sense, because iv tried some older ones as well
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  • jinteik
    what is the size of the hdd you are using? do you have more than 1 hdd connected now? if yes can you just have this hard disk and your cdrom / dvdrom and check from bios if you can see both of it? how about your jumpers on your hard disk?what has it been set too? and another thing is dont over load your pc with too many hard disk as less power will cause the hdd to get bad sectors
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  • Koohiisan
    I've experienced this issue a few times as well. In my case it seemed to be due to these two primary issues: 1) The BIOS didn't support a newer, higher capacity drive. The fix for this was in one PC to do a BIOS update. On another PC I had to install a ATA controller card that did support the newer drive. 2) I mismatched the master/slave/cable select jumpers when connecting two drives on a single cable. Also, don't use CS if it's not an 80 pin cable. Have you tried the drive on its own cable, at the end, manually set to master? Otherwise, maybe we need some details on what exact model of PC and drive you are using.
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  • Weeve
    the HDDs im testing are: 30Gigs 40Gigs(old) 80Gigs 120Gigs none but the old one works, and I have tested all of them set to cable master forced, and also tested cable select. No, the computer does not have any slave drives, but its power supply is pretty weak, but I dont think that would be the problem, since they all take the same power amount
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  • Pjb0222
    Can you give a bit more info on what you are doing. From what has been said I am guessing the following: This is an older system with PATA type drives instead of SATA. You have an optical drive on one IDE channel and an existing drive on the other IDE channel. To which channel are you adding the second drive? With the existing hard drive or the optical drive? There was an old IDE PATA bug where when adding a hard drive in chain with the optical drive the hard drive had to be the master and optical had to be slave. Later BIOS and hardware did not exhibit this issue (drove me friggin nuts the first time as I wanted drives on separate channels for through put). Can you confirm you are using 80-wire IDE cables and not older 40-wire IDE cables? Most newer PATA drives require the 80-wire cables and using the 40-wire cables can give wonkie results (to include random corruption). Also, do you know if the cables are straight through or settup for cable select. Usually there is a small part of the cable twisted into the second connector for cables that are used as cable select. The IDE channels can be set in BIOS to auto detect drives or on some systems you have to manually rerun detection. They can even be set to enable/disable/detect individual drives. That is all vendor / BIOS dependent. Exact model of system and drives may help with better suggestions. Oh, and power issues can show as dropouts on drives as power demands fluctuate while the system works or failure of a drive to initialize (and hence be detected) if during bootup (where some of the highest draws occur) while components run self checks the power supply cannot provide enough juice to spin up the drive. These are relatively rare and a pain to detect / diagnose.
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  • Weeve
    I am using a PATA drive, the situation is the computer has two 80-pin channels, one is optical, the other is a HDD channel, the cable does not support a slave, and my goal is to take out the old PATA and put in the new PATA, so basically, upgrading the HDD and giving the computer more storage, but the problem was that the computer dident recognize the new HDD in the BIOS, and so wouldent let me format/put windows on the PATA. it dosent recognize any of my spares, even ones that use less current, and not even the ones that have less storage, the computer seems to be set only to recognize only the old HDD, and I dont know how to make the BIOS detect the new one.
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  • Pjb0222
    My suggestion is to put the drive in with the default settings on the drive. Go to BIOS into the drive section and see if there are any options to detect drives or manually configure drives. Not all BIOS have these options. You may need to try it in both positions on the ribbon. If you are still failing post the computer model and BIOS version. If I can find documentation I will look to see if there is anything else to try.
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  • Weeve
    HP D530 USDT, BIOS version unknown, the Hard Drive options in the BIOS wont appear, they are in a faded text and wont let me select it
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  • Pjb0222
    I looked at the system documentation. It shows a wide range of options for configuring the IDE and SATA controllers / disks. It unfortunately also included "*Option supported on select models." One item to make sure is NOT enabled is the Master Boot Record (MBR) Security. That could cause your issues. At this point I would suggest Stripping down to the hard drive by removing any other drives. Flashing the BIOS to the most recent release. Once flashed I would load BIOS defaults. Ensure that all security is turned off in the BIOS. Check if the drive options are now available. See if your drive is now recognized. Past this it is difficult to see what else you can do. From everything you have done and size of drives you are using it should identify the new drive. I reviewed these resources: Hardware Reference Guide: Compaq Business Desktop: D530 Ultra-Slim Desktop Model service reference guide: Business Desktop d500 Series: 5th Edition Service Reference Card: HP Compaq d330 and d530 Series Personal Computers HP Compaq d530 Ultra-slim Desktop Desktop PC HP Compaq d530 Ultra-slim Desktop Desktop PC - Downloads and Drivers
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  • Weeve
    Thankyou, ill update the BIOS and try disabling the security, if it dosent work, im throwing in the towel, because this desktop is not friendly to take apart, and a major waste of time to work anymore on it ;D thanks for the help!
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