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		<title>By: tomliotta</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/good-replacement-for-xtermin8-debugger/#comment-70549</link>
		<dc:creator>tomliotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...we have the 2 debuggers you mentioned,...&lt;/i&gt;

Three debuggers so far. Four, if you count STRDBG and STRISDB separately.

1. STRDBG
2. STRISDB
3. WDSC debug
4. System i5 Debugger

The first two require no extra steps. Debug can be started at any time by anyone with authority simply by entering the commands. WDSC debug needs STRDBGSVR to get the &#039;debug server&#039; started. And the System i5 Debugger requires STRTCPSVR *DBG to get the &#039;DBG server&#039; started. (I have no clue how the designations were decided.)

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;we have the 2 debuggers you mentioned,&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Three debuggers so far. Four, if you count STRDBG and STRISDB separately.</p>
<p>1. STRDBG<br />
2. STRISDB<br />
3. WDSC debug<br />
4. System i5 Debugger</p>
<p>The first two require no extra steps. Debug can be started at any time by anyone with authority simply by entering the commands. WDSC debug needs STRDBGSVR to get the &#8216;debug server&#8217; started. And the System i5 Debugger requires STRTCPSVR *DBG to get the &#8216;DBG server&#8217; started. (I have no clue how the designations were decided.)</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: dinosaur5225</title>
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		<dc:creator>dinosaur5225</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though I wish I had something better, I use STRISDB with COBOL.  I have found that with interactive programs, I get flaky results if I am debugging more than 2 programs at a time.  So if I am working with programs that call several programs, I have to remove a program, before I add another one to the list to step through it.  Of course you may not need to step through more than one to find what you&#039;re looking for.  Whenever I have had more than 2 programs in debug, the step through/display variables screen &quot;bleeds&quot; into the interactive display and it becomes a real mess to work with/look at.   On rare occasions I still use STRDBG and print a paper trace to review logic flow patterns that are hard to see stepping through.  But now I am showing my dinosaur scales...I will be following this to hopefully find something better for my own use - so thanks for asking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I wish I had something better, I use STRISDB with COBOL.  I have found that with interactive programs, I get flaky results if I am debugging more than 2 programs at a time.  So if I am working with programs that call several programs, I have to remove a program, before I add another one to the list to step through it.  Of course you may not need to step through more than one to find what you&#8217;re looking for.  Whenever I have had more than 2 programs in debug, the step through/display variables screen &#8220;bleeds&#8221; into the interactive display and it becomes a real mess to work with/look at.   On rare occasions I still use STRDBG and print a paper trace to review logic flow patterns that are hard to see stepping through.  But now I am showing my dinosaur scales&#8230;I will be following this to hopefully find something better for my own use &#8211; so thanks for asking.</p>
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		<title>By: lilarose</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/good-replacement-for-xtermin8-debugger/#comment-70464</link>
		<dc:creator>lilarose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, we have the 2 debuggers you mentioned, and they do work with Cobol, we just don&#039;t care for them that much.  XTermin8 was more user friendly and easier to read.  We&#039;re just trying to find a substitute and wondered about others and what they use.  Thanks for the comments/suggestions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we have the 2 debuggers you mentioned, and they do work with Cobol, we just don&#8217;t care for them that much.  XTermin8 was more user friendly and easier to read.  We&#8217;re just trying to find a substitute and wondered about others and what they use.  Thanks for the comments/suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: tomliotta</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/good-replacement-for-xtermin8-debugger/#comment-70292</link>
		<dc:creator>tomliotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use one of the debuggers once or twice a year. The one I prefer is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=/rzamq/rzamqmain.htm&quot;&gt;System i5 Debugger&lt;/a&gt;. But I often don&#039;t have it installed/configured at a workstation, so I end up with the normal green-screen debugger and less often with WDSC.

If you regularly use a debugger and use it from mostly the same workstation(s), maybe the System Debugger is worthwhile for you.

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use one of the debuggers once or twice a year. The one I prefer is the <a href="http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=/rzamq/rzamqmain.htm">System i5 Debugger</a>. But I often don&#8217;t have it installed/configured at a workstation, so I end up with the normal green-screen debugger and less often with WDSC.</p>
<p>If you regularly use a debugger and use it from mostly the same workstation(s), maybe the System Debugger is worthwhile for you.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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