Future of AS400 ??

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Hi, I've been working as an AS400 Professional in one of India's largest MNCs for the past 2.5 years. Am working on COBOL, CICS, RPG..etc. But am reallly concerned , worried about the future prospects of AS400 as IBM is'nt upgrading it. I've tried my level best to shift into SAP track in my company , but my Project Manager is reluctant to release me coz am the STAR Performer in the project and got many awards too.. ( no Exaggeration ). I;ve learnt SAP ABAP and find it very cool and interesting than this legacy system AS400. Am cursing my fate for having put into AS400 when i joined this company as a fresher in 2005. My Manager instead is offering me an Onsite Offer in this same project..( USA ) with a comittment of 2 yrs.. but am really not happy .. Am in doldrums.. what shud i do ?? it's hard to get into SAP in other companies with this AS400 experience... Plz tell me what shud i do ?? Plz mail me ur ans.. at amrithkiran27@gmail.com

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The medium format at IBM is a cash cow. RPG as well. They will be around for a while. The as400 is now i5. IBM has embraced this platform as an internet solution.

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  • Sweta
    Hi even i have the same pbm.I joined in an MNC as a fresher i was given AS400.Now i completed 1.5 yrs in th company.I am not seeing any prospects in AS400.I want to change my technology to SAP.Anyone could you please let me know the future of AS400
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  • Bombadil75
    Hello, AS400 is here to remain. We don't need to upgrade drastically in this world(AS400). Its now called iseries, and iseries is rocking. Its compatible with 64 languages which includes JAVA, .Net. IBm supplies the best app servers like Websphere on AS400. I am in AS400 for the last 10 yrs. My team comprises of developers ranging in the exp of 1-4yrs. What you need is to gain experience in programming langauges. You gain it is AS400 or Java, its all the same. JAVA market is wide open with lot of developers around, so demand is more and supply also is more. AS400 developers are more in demand but supply factor is less. So it make you to be UNIQUE in this world. And to be UNIQUE in IT is a good factor. AS400 - for many its legacy, but legacy rules im many companies. UA market is good for AS400 and if an opportunity arises, please go ahead and grab it. You get client exposure and a hand in mastering the technology. Go ahead, grab it, don't miss it.
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  • KENAWI
    Hi All; In our IT carrier you have to chose your path.... and you can not remain a Developer for ever... you will be an analyst and a Project Manager someday.... and these jobs are Platform independent, so be a good analyst and a good PM and have lots of soft skills and know how to pass problem in Work and you will succeed regardless the platfor you are in. As for the AS400, most of the company especialy in Canda are still using iSeries , and now after IBM add to the family the Blad servers with power6 most of the customers has been going to MS start to plan to back to I system:-- http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/a-testimonial-on-installing-a-system-i-blade/ Believe me the AS400 is here to stay. Good Luck. MK
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  • Cwc
    One of the reasons IBM has been name juggling the platform fomerly known as AS/400 is to combat the misperception that it's a "legacy" system. I have some doubts about whether this was a good strategy for them or not, but the name is what it is now -- I frequently refer to it as the "i" for short, as that covers all recent variations of the name. In my view, the term legacy as applied to the system has been advanced by people who know little about the platform at all and are judging it by the applications that run on it. Many of those applications have been around for long time, so they don't take advantage of the latest capabilities of the operating system. This is a strength of the platform in that it has allowed businesses to maximize their application investment without having to recompile and rearchitect them to keep up with operating system and hardware advancements. Unfortunately this has also led to many people staying in their comfort zone with just supporting the older applications and not wanting to learn new develpment methods and languages. RPG is a modern language as well - there are different versions of it, and if you have not learned the modern methods, I don't see as many long term prospects or market demand for coding in the old ways. There are a lot of these older applications out there which will likely be around for years to come, but there has been a trend of companies dumping them and going with different technology. So for the applications that remain, do we all want to become just maintenance programmers and hoping we can coast into retirement? I don't. As good as current RPG is, an object oriented language like Java or those in the .Net arena have many advantages as well. RPG is much closer to an object oriented language than it ever has been, but there are some OO concepts that it does not support. I'd like to hope that IBM will continue to improve it and keep it competitive. It seems likely they will, but whether the IT development world will know about it and use them, I don't know. It is up to all of us IBM i (fomerly System i, iSeries, AS/400) supporters to stay current with technology and be ready to show what it can really do when faced with some misguided corporate strategy to phase it out because it's a "legacy system" and replace it with a bunch of PC servers. The i is one of the most reliable platforms around, particularly when compared to the typical PC server. Not that those don't have their role either -- I believe in using the best tool for the job, and in many cases, those meet the need. But when it comes to running my core business processes, I'd rely on the i. It has so much more capability and possiblities than most people seem to realize.
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  • Lovemyi
    I would not count out the IBM i on Power that it is called now. IBM has shifted all of the OS platforms to the POWER6 hardware and IBM is calling it IBM i on Power, AIX on Power and Linux on Power as all 3 flavors of OS will run on the same Power hardware. IBM financial keeps reporting the systems as Power P but it is really all OSs on the Power Platform. It is a way for IBM financials to make AIX look good by adding the other 2 into the numbers. It still has everything going for it with the built in database, security and other fully intergrated and tested features that all software developers on that platform take advantage of under the covers. And do not loose sight of the fact that it is and will always be backward compatible with all software developed to run on it over the last 40 years, going back to the System/38 days. While other midrange platforms over the last 30+ years are gone, the IBM i keeps morphing to meet the needs of todays users and takes full advantage of todays software technologies.
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  • Gilly400
    Hi, I've been working on AS400 since it came out and before that I worked on System/36 and System/38. I've now been in constant employment for 23 years with these systems. I've worked as a freelancer for a long time and never had any real problems finding work in the midrange market. I still do mostly development work, I find this more satisfying than moving into management. The corporate culture and company politics are something that don't appeal to me, by working freelance in a development/support role I get the best of both worlds (and a higher income). Over the years that I've been in the midrange market, there have been several doom and gloom periods with the death of AS400 and RPG prophecised (for example when C was hot, then internet, then Java, etc) - but at the end of the day the i is still here and going strong. The new capabilities with one hardware platform able to run multiple OS's are only going to add to the number of people necessary to keep these OS's running and interacting. This also gives us the opportunity to learn the other OS's and puts us in a unique position to be able to integrate software and solutions across multiple OS's on a single hardware platform. The future is bright, no where did I put my shades.... Regards, Martin Gilbert.
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  • Gilly400
    whoops, that should have been "now where did I put my shades".... Seems like they're on my nose....
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  • TopKat
    I agree with Gilly400. I have been on the AS/400 platform since it was introduced in 1988. IBM has only improved the hardware and software since then. With the recent announcements of OS and hardware (Power6, Blade Center) I see no end for the IBM i in the near, or far future.
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  • TomLiotta
    I'm not clear where the idea came from that "IBM is'nt upgrading it." The upgrades happen regularly and continually. Now, if the concern is that areas such as CICS aren't progressing, I wouldn't expect them to. I doubt if CICS will look much different 10 years from now. I see CICS on AS/400s only as a migration path off of other hardware and not anything for long-term plans. But then, CICS is hardly an example of the current state of AS/400 technology and applications. Added note -- POWER 6 is no longer the new news now that POWER 7 is arriving. And we're working in-house with IBM i 7.1. Tom
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  • OldSysAdmin
    The idea comes from executives reading magazines on flights!
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  • Splat
    I've worked on every IBM midrange machine with the exception of the S/32. I constantly hear about the death of the (take your pick) hardware, operating system, programming language (I wish I had a penny for every time someone told me RPG was dead). Oddly enough, it seems to still be around. I don't have any suggestions beyond saying that if you think the platform is dead, move on to something else. BTW, don't confuse your management's refusal or inability to keep up with developments with IBM's efforts.
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  • Teandy
    We just merged with another company to form a new company. Just prior to the merger the company we merged with kicked SAP and its 12 consultants to the curb in favor of a new i5. So who’s to say that SAP is that much safer? You have only been with the company for 2.5 years. I don't know if this is the extent of your IT experience or not, but is sounds to me like this is more of a problem with an ignorant CIO who has neither the knowledge of, nor the desire to learn how much more cost effective the i5 is over an SAP, Oracle or wintel solution. I'm with Splat on this. If I had a nickel for every time someone told me that the AS/400 was dead or that IBM was not going to enhance RPG, I could have retired to an island somewhere in the South Pacific 10 years ago! If your AS/400 is not being upgraded, it is due to poor management, not IBM.
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  • Muralis
    Hi, I'm working with IBM i (AS400) from 1997 until now. During 2000 dot com issue, everyone told AS400 dead, RPG dead, people started moving out of this and joing Java courses, I did not do instead I started learning Java but continue working with IBM i platform, slowing RPG IV came in and then now i use java objects in RPG and we run JAVA web services on IBM i and RPG as core business processors, we call RPG from windows Java application., we also got xml facilities now in RPG IV and ile concepts and also I code only in FREE format, using all ILE / RPG IV and Java , web sphere application servers.. we recently implemented proof of concept web services using WAS6.0 and also using tomcat , running tomcat on windows and was60 on ibm i, the performance was amazing with WAS6.0. In this proof of concept, i develeped a java applet app and posted SOAP requests to Java web services running on IBM i... and continue polling to record the service times, it is really amazing ..... I love IBM i and it is still out there and will be... I also worked in different countries with IBM i platform for different projects.. IBM i rocks...!!! Murali.
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  • ankit2002
    Hey... IBM i is the new name of AS 400.For you information IBM is going to launch its new version in next year April.So u can imagine there is no need to worry about the future of IBM i. I am also listening that this technology will not remain anymore.Believe me that the day will never come because no can replace such a robust System.
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  • Mirjilon
    First and foremost the Iseries is not going away. I have been a midrange programmer for almost 30 years and there are more ways to develop code on this platform than just RPG and COBOL (There is no such thing as CICS on the iseries platform which really makes me wonder about this "star" programmer from India)
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  • TomLiotta
    There is no such thing as CICS on the iseries platform... You might not have CICS on your system, but it can indeed be ordered and installed. Even if not installed, evidence can be seen on systems that have 'previous compiler' support for CL. Run WRKOBJ *ALL/STRCICS to see an example of a Start CICS command. Tom
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  • Shridevi
    Hi, I am a mainframe developer with 1.5 years. Is it good to learn as400 and RPGIV since i Have experinced in mainframes is it good for future career, Could anyone help me
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  • TomLiotta
    is it good for future career Nobody knows what is good for your future career. Nobody knows what's good for their own future career. If you're good at what you do, that is what's good for your career. The AS/400 product line is well designed. Fundamental quality has kept it in use and will keep it in use. It's a server system that scales the range from small PC servers well into the mainframe class. The top end has only gotten larger. Servers are going to be around for a long time to come. It's engineered for business applications. And business will be around for a long time to come. (If it isn't, you have bigger things to worry about for your career.) But nobody knows the future path of an individual. If you focus on your own quality, you can go as far as you want with the AS/400 line. Or any other line. You're the only one who knows how good you are or how good you can be. Tom
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  • ToddN2000
    The AS/400 or i-Series or Powerxx whatever...will be around for a while.. The systems are always improving. From the old days of RPG I and RPG II to what we have now is worlds apart. With new features in the OS, RPG FREE,embedded SQL and built in functions to handle XML processing and webservices it is still a great system. It also has some of the best security handling. I started out on a S/38 back in 1984 and am always finding new ways to improve code and learn new features if anything learning more will alway be a plus but no need to drop evervthing and change career paths.
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