Fire proof Device/Data back up

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I was asked by my boss this week about solution or a method of fire proofing a backup drive, tape or dvd. We currently place our previous days back up tape in a firesafe box, but is any device that fire proofs current backup data? For example, Is there a fire proof safe that can contain a hard drive or a tape device? I am almost sure that if I buy a regular fire safe, and modify the safe to fit data wires to receive data from a server for backup, it will damage the fire proof integrity. Therefore, are there any other choices of securing a current backup on a daily basis? Unattended. Thanks for your feedback.

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Depending on the size of the data there are companies that do offsite backups using your inet connection. Why do you need such a system. When your building burns down you are going to have more than 1 business day lost so why is simply taking each nights backup home with you not good enough? The way I used to do it is have the tapes offsite until they it was time to cycle them back in. This means that if your building burns down you have data that is at most 24 hours old. This is more than sufficient for most businesses.

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  • Antila
    As far as I know there is no such thing as a fireproof device. If you take a look at some of the fireproof cabinets available, for instance thoose sold by Rosengrens, they are all closed cabinets, and will not work if in any way modified. My best advice is to use fiberchannel technology to move the backup "off-site". Simply put the backup server, or device, in a fireproofed part of the building, or at least just in a part of the building which is likely not to burn if the part your serverfarm is in will burn. In any way you should equipe your serverroom with a fire prevention system like the ones provided by Gielle (www.fm200.biz)
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  • ESuazo
    You both have great points. If the building was in flames, losing just one day of data is expected or usually typical. I have a firesafe where I store my daily backups the following day after the backup completes. Also, using the fm200 is also a option, that way I can take preventative measures in case of such incident happens. Thanks for your feedbacks.
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  • Ilarge
    I think a lot depends on scale. I've not heard of any fireproof small system backup devices although many of the larger tape libraries will double up as fire safe. For a smaller scale solution, you could run a fibre out to a seperate building and have your backup device(s) off-site. We have s slightly more extreme solution: a hot standby site. We have a site 15 miles away from our main site with a 100MB/s ethernet link. Our main AS/400 is duplicated there and the machines are mirrored... HTH! Ian Large
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  • Fanbot
    Been through a fire and recovery. Offline offsite storage of current data with an external organization that provides these facilities is a good alternative. Fire proof safes are really fire retarding and only guarantee's x number of hours before contents are destroyed/damaged. Your local bank will rent you vault space. What you need is the capability to protect your hardware as suggested and in the event of a loss, be able to rent equipment and space, retrieve the last data backup and restore your system. Depending on the size you should be able to be back in business within 24 hours at the most. Hopes this helps.
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  • Dcsys99
    I do disaster recovery for a living. Store the tapes off site. Fireproof is usually rated in time. If the fire lasts more than the rating - you lose. Fireproof does not mean waterproof. Water used to put out the fire could damage the tape(s). Fireproof does not mean heat proof. The tapes WILL melt. Do yourself a favor - take the tapes off site. If you can't afford an offsite service, take them home with you or get the boss to do it.
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  • Timbol
    ABSOLUTELY Off Site!!! We have a fire safe, that somewhat protects for a certain number of hours which could vary to 1/2 an hour to 3 hours. But if you have any type of Audit or Procedural inspection you will get burned for not having off site storage. Do you really want to be in the position of trying to pry open a fire safe with your boss looking over you shoulder. Hoping that your backup plan is going to be okay?? TB
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  • Ccalvin
    One good reason for off-site storage or off-site vaulting is that the building you operate from will not be accessable following an event. Until the authorities investigate, inspect, and certify safety, no one will be admitted to your building.
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  • Ccalvin
    I received an offline comment to my previous comment. While fire is a real risk the real event that I was thinking of was dry chlorine for the fountain out front of the building. It was in the basement, broke open and got enough dampness to fill the building with the smell. Nobody in for 2 days. No access to tapes, purses, car keys, cell phones, you name it.
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  • Epeterson
    The best option that I know of is Data Fortress. Here is the URL for one site that sells it. I don't use it but I discovered it as part of an effort to answer the same question. http://www.klsecurity.com/product_development/schwab_data_fortress/media_vault.htm
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