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		<title>By: simplr</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/feedbackadvice-on-ms-exchange-2003-issues-system-mgmt-is-fooling-us/#comment-56405</link>
		<dc:creator>simplr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, not a lot is going to change I&#039;m afraid, so &lt;b&gt;preparing&lt;/b&gt; to &quot;walk away&quot; seems the best option. I started looking into migrating to Google Apps, after all, only 2 or 3 mailboxes need to be &quot;converted&quot;. I have experience managing GA domains, so no learning curve there.

I&#039;ll see how far I get, there&#039;s some info to be found on the net, I&#039;ll probably have to open another thread/question once I get stuck.

I hope that one day I&#039;ll be able to see the benefts of MS Exchange, I am sure it&#039;s a great product, just the guys &quot;managing&quot; it seem to know next to nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not a lot is going to change I&#8217;m afraid, so <b>preparing</b> to &#8220;walk away&#8221; seems the best option. I started looking into migrating to Google Apps, after all, only 2 or 3 mailboxes need to be &#8220;converted&#8221;. I have experience managing GA domains, so no learning curve there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll see how far I get, there&#8217;s some info to be found on the net, I&#8217;ll probably have to open another thread/question once I get stuck.</p>
<p>I hope that one day I&#8217;ll be able to see the benefts of MS Exchange, I am sure it&#8217;s a great product, just the guys &#8220;managing&#8221; it seem to know next to nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: pressler2904</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/feedbackadvice-on-ms-exchange-2003-issues-system-mgmt-is-fooling-us/#comment-56319</link>
		<dc:creator>pressler2904</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that Exchange is a &lt;sarcasm&gt; little bit &lt;/sarcasm&gt; of overkill for 3 users.  I asgree that you are &lt;understatement&gt; being mislead &lt;/understatement&gt; by your current sysadmins (or whatever they call themselves.  As soon as your organization can reasonably do so, walk away (fast, very fast) from these people...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Exchange is a &lt;sarcasm&gt; little bit &lt;/sarcasm&gt; of overkill for 3 users.  I asgree that you are &lt;understatement&gt; being mislead &lt;/understatement&gt; by your current sysadmins (or whatever they call themselves.  As soon as your organization can reasonably do so, walk away (fast, very fast) from these people&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: simplr</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/feedbackadvice-on-ms-exchange-2003-issues-system-mgmt-is-fooling-us/#comment-56289</link>
		<dc:creator>simplr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All, thanks for your advice (and sympathy ;-)

I do not have physical access to the server (no key), nor do I have access to system manager tools (no password).

So I just have to let it all happen, but I need some reassurance that my simple demands (mainly being able to send and receive e-mail) are not extreme. 

Jenrzzz, G APSS  is the way I want to go, I have already set that up for my domain(s) and feel comfortable with it. Yet I can&#039;t just ignore expenses that have been made. 

I can also admit that my lack of MS Exchange knowledge plays a role in this, and I would like to stay unbiased. However, giving the situation of 3 users that want to use e-mail, I don&#039;t feel MS Exchange is &quot;exactly what we need&quot;.

However, I get the feeling that we&#039;re systematically being lied to, and treated like dumb a******, and that we&#039;re paying for that. 

To be continued, at the moment we&#039;re not making decisions. Will keep you all updated, thanks again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All, thanks for your advice (and sympathy <img src='http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I do not have physical access to the server (no key), nor do I have access to system manager tools (no password).</p>
<p>So I just have to let it all happen, but I need some reassurance that my simple demands (mainly being able to send and receive e-mail) are not extreme. </p>
<p>Jenrzzz, G APSS  is the way I want to go, I have already set that up for my domain(s) and feel comfortable with it. Yet I can&#8217;t just ignore expenses that have been made. </p>
<p>I can also admit that my lack of MS Exchange knowledge plays a role in this, and I would like to stay unbiased. However, giving the situation of 3 users that want to use e-mail, I don&#8217;t feel MS Exchange is &#8220;exactly what we need&#8221;.</p>
<p>However, I get the feeling that we&#8217;re systematically being lied to, and treated like dumb a******, and that we&#8217;re paying for that. </p>
<p>To be continued, at the moment we&#8217;re not making decisions. Will keep you all updated, thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: jenrzzz</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/feedbackadvice-on-ms-exchange-2003-issues-system-mgmt-is-fooling-us/#comment-56273</link>
		<dc:creator>jenrzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Switching to Google Apps sounds like it&#039;d be perfect for your company. Definitely cheaper and easier to manage than running your own server, and if you aren&#039;t using any Exchange features other than calendars, there&#039;s really no reason to pay people to support your broken network.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Switching to Google Apps sounds like it&#8217;d be perfect for your company. Definitely cheaper and easier to manage than running your own server, and if you aren&#8217;t using any Exchange features other than calendars, there&#8217;s really no reason to pay people to support your broken network.</p>
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		<title>By: pressler2904</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/feedbackadvice-on-ms-exchange-2003-issues-system-mgmt-is-fooling-us/#comment-56266</link>
		<dc:creator>pressler2904</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As per the suggestion from LabNuke99, re-set your Exchange relay option:  once you are on a blackhole/blacklist, it&#039;s sometimes difficult to get yourself removed...

That having been said, look at the Microsoft support link here:

&lt;b&gt;http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324958&lt;/b&gt;

for additional information regarding relay settings on MS Exchange and how to close them.

The suggestion to walk away from your existing provider is a good one, although one question comes to mind:  if your company bought the Exchange server and the hardware it runs on (???) exactly why is another company piggybacking on your server?  If you own the program but not the hardware, get your hands on the physical CD install media and the installation key(s), uninstall the existing setup and re-install on your own hardware.

Alternatively, Windows Small Business Server (WSBS) can be used, and it has a version of Exchange included...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per the suggestion from LabNuke99, re-set your Exchange relay option:  once you are on a blackhole/blacklist, it&#8217;s sometimes difficult to get yourself removed&#8230;</p>
<p>That having been said, look at the Microsoft support link here:</p>
<p><b><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324958" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324958</a></b></p>
<p>for additional information regarding relay settings on MS Exchange and how to close them.</p>
<p>The suggestion to walk away from your existing provider is a good one, although one question comes to mind:  if your company bought the Exchange server and the hardware it runs on (???) exactly why is another company piggybacking on your server?  If you own the program but not the hardware, get your hands on the physical CD install media and the installation key(s), uninstall the existing setup and re-install on your own hardware.</p>
<p>Alternatively, Windows Small Business Server (WSBS) can be used, and it has a version of Exchange included&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: labnuke99</title>
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		<dc:creator>labnuke99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We can take this conversation offline if you put a request to the moderator to get in touch with me. I think you should look for another 3rd party provider and discuss your issues and see what solutions they offer. If you are a senior member of the IT team there your voice should carry some weight into making the services reliable and services work for your organization.

There are several ways to test for open relay. Try a Google search for open relay test. One site is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.checkor.com/&quot;&gt;http://www.checkor.com/&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can take this conversation offline if you put a request to the moderator to get in touch with me. I think you should look for another 3rd party provider and discuss your issues and see what solutions they offer. If you are a senior member of the IT team there your voice should carry some weight into making the services reliable and services work for your organization.</p>
<p>There are several ways to test for open relay. Try a Google search for open relay test. One site is <a href="http://www.checkor.com/">http://www.checkor.com/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: simplr</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/feedbackadvice-on-ms-exchange-2003-issues-system-mgmt-is-fooling-us/#comment-56259</link>
		<dc:creator>simplr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Labnuke99, thanks for your lengthy and clear reply, As I am new to this site, I am not sure whether a &quot;forum&quot; sort of thread should appear here.

As of yesterday, ALL outgoing mails are returned, so there&#039;s a bomb ticking here. 

I do not have access to anything other than my (and my colleagues) e-mail, let alone Active Directory (and to be honest, I have no clue what that is).

One reason for the Open Relay (Is there a way I can check that without any admin rights?) is that there are 2 companies sharing the same server. Going Dutch is what it&#039;s called I think, and that&#039;s what we are ;-)

I will see what I can do, but the attitude of our sysadmins (a 3rd party company), who think they can d*ck us around is not very promising.

But thanks a bunch for your reply and taking the time for it, it will give me some ammo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Labnuke99, thanks for your lengthy and clear reply, As I am new to this site, I am not sure whether a &#8220;forum&#8221; sort of thread should appear here.</p>
<p>As of yesterday, ALL outgoing mails are returned, so there&#8217;s a bomb ticking here. </p>
<p>I do not have access to anything other than my (and my colleagues) e-mail, let alone Active Directory (and to be honest, I have no clue what that is).</p>
<p>One reason for the Open Relay (Is there a way I can check that without any admin rights?) is that there are 2 companies sharing the same server. Going Dutch is what it&#8217;s called I think, and that&#8217;s what we are <img src='http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I will see what I can do, but the attitude of our sysadmins (a 3rd party company), who think they can d*ck us around is not very promising.</p>
<p>But thanks a bunch for your reply and taking the time for it, it will give me some ammo.</p>
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