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		<title>By: graybeard52</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/db2400-2/#comment-65893</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its not SQL, but there is a utility called RDR that is part of the DBU suite.  I think the WRKDBF shareware program also had a recover deleted records.  In any case, there are limits to what you can recover.  Generally the sooner you try, the better chance of recovery.  Other than journals, the other possibility would be using SQL against a backup copy and inserting missing records.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not SQL, but there is a utility called RDR that is part of the DBU suite.  I think the WRKDBF shareware program also had a recover deleted records.  In any case, there are limits to what you can recover.  Generally the sooner you try, the better chance of recovery.  Other than journals, the other possibility would be using SQL against a backup copy and inserting missing records.</p>
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		<title>By: sloopy</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/db2400-2/#comment-65882</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are utilities to recover system-deleted records. I do have one, which saves the physical file in a SAVE FILE (SAVF). A program then reads the save file and retrieves the records from the physical file. The deleted records are identified by a byte which is normally invisible, but which now is accessible.

The internals of a save file can change between operating system releases, which means that my version of this utility now no longer works (I&#039;ve just checked!) - I&#039;ll have to check on the net to see if I can find a new version, and I suggest that you should look there too.

There ARE other methods, but those can be stymied by the system authority level.

Sloopy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are utilities to recover system-deleted records. I do have one, which saves the physical file in a SAVE FILE (SAVF). A program then reads the save file and retrieves the records from the physical file. The deleted records are identified by a byte which is normally invisible, but which now is accessible.</p>
<p>The internals of a save file can change between operating system releases, which means that my version of this utility now no longer works (I&#8217;ve just checked!) &#8211; I&#8217;ll have to check on the net to see if I can find a new version, and I suggest that you should look there too.</p>
<p>There ARE other methods, but those can be stymied by the system authority level.</p>
<p>Sloopy</p>
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		<title>By: yorkshireman</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/db2400-2/#comment-65839</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Way back when..

when magers were boys.

It was common to indicate a &#039;deleted&#039; record by setting a field within the record to some value, and logically excluding records with that value from being used. 

I suggest you invute your manager to update himself or herself.

If you think records may be deleted in error, get better users, or build in journal recovery, or anything else. 

As they say in the shops - when it&#039;s gone, it&#039;s gone. 

We&#039;re not talking Mickey mouse^^^^^^ soft   &#039;are you sure&#039; stuff -  You either delete a record or you don&#039;t]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way back when..</p>
<p>when magers were boys.</p>
<p>It was common to indicate a &#8216;deleted&#8217; record by setting a field within the record to some value, and logically excluding records with that value from being used. </p>
<p>I suggest you invute your manager to update himself or herself.</p>
<p>If you think records may be deleted in error, get better users, or build in journal recovery, or anything else. </p>
<p>As they say in the shops &#8211; when it&#8217;s gone, it&#8217;s gone. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re not talking Mickey mouse^^^^^^ soft   &#8216;are you sure&#8217; stuff &#8211;  You either delete a record or you don&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>By: bvining</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/db2400-2/#comment-65835</link>
		<dc:creator>bvining</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your manager is mistaken.

It is possible to retrieve some parts of a deleted record, but SQL wouldn&#039;t have a clue as to the underlying data layout as we are not talking externally described files/tables that you access. You need to parse through an object save of the underlying database file, a task I would normally not associate with SQL processing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your manager is mistaken.</p>
<p>It is possible to retrieve some parts of a deleted record, but SQL wouldn&#8217;t have a clue as to the underlying data layout as we are not talking externally described files/tables that you access. You need to parse through an object save of the underlying database file, a task I would normally not associate with SQL processing.</p>
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		<title>By: srinis</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/db2400-2/#comment-65829</link>
		<dc:creator>srinis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey guys...

Karthik here.. adding to the above topic, how to retrieve deleted records using RRN value in SQL and not by using any other tools?

My manager told, its possible to retrieve deleted records using SQL and he gave a clue that with RRN we can do... 

does anyone know how to retrieve deleted records?? using sql??

kindly share ur knowledge guys!!

Thanks in advance..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys&#8230;</p>
<p>Karthik here.. adding to the above topic, how to retrieve deleted records using RRN value in SQL and not by using any other tools?</p>
<p>My manager told, its possible to retrieve deleted records using SQL and he gave a clue that with RRN we can do&#8230; </p>
<p>does anyone know how to retrieve deleted records?? using sql??</p>
<p>kindly share ur knowledge guys!!</p>
<p>Thanks in advance..</p>
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