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  Asked: Feb 21 2006   2:54 AM GMT
  Asked by: sswar111


Data Center reaserch


DataCenter, Cabling, Power management, Remote management, standards, Thermal controls

Dear all,

Im a university student who is conducting a reaserch that shold cover all aspects of data centers, Im requesting you help in providing white papers, or any information related to my topic (data centers).

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Ok, I'm answering two days after your original post, and there are zero replies. Does this tell you anything?

We have had (collectively speaking) long experience with people in school who have asked us to do their homework for them. I assure you on behalf of all the regulars here that it gets tiring (or wearisome - pick your own adjectives).

While I applaud your openness, the first thought that comes to mind is "why haven't you done a Google/Yahoo/Netscape/Favorite-Search-Engine search on what you're looking for?"

Perhaps I'm being edgy, but if I were looking to hire someone energetic to look for ideas on why a given data center has problems, your approach would earn zero points.

Now, if you had some some research (and perhaps you have), then you could reasonably expect a response with a posting such as "Most of the data center management white papers I've found keep saying: 'such and such, so and so', and I don't understand what they mean" Then you'd be much more likely to get a response.

I'm feeling feisty at the moment, so I'll go a step further toward clarity. We (as a group - there are always individuals with their own opinions, and sometimes I'm one of them) are very happy to help someone who has demonstrated by the details of their posting that they have tried hard to do their own work, but for whatever reason, have been unable to reach a solution. They might be a clueless so-and-so, but they are TRYING!

Posting a query here in hopes of having us (collectively) do much of your work for you is likely to get you ignored, scorned, or in my case, taken to task for being lazy.

If you do your homework and have questions about contrasts, differences of opinion, approaches, or possible inconsistencies, you'll find us a delightfully helpful group of people to work with. If you don't, you'll get either ignored, derided, or (in my case) taken to task.

Bob
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klewis  |   Feb 24 2006  9:44AM GMT

Well said, Bob!!!

 

sswar111  |   Feb 25 2006  2:47AM GMT

Dear All;

I think you are right, so resonding to you message are the problems i have incountered:

During my research i have found that most of the data centers that post there detaails on the web provide information only on the features they have, on the other hand i didnt find something to write under the LAYOUT OF THE DATA CENTER section of my report since people consider it private, another thing they dont post ( i think for the same reason (privacy) are the technical design of a data center (switches, routers, firewalls, etc…) im not looking for specific designs or layouts im just looking for a general idea that will lead me to being creative.

by the way my report covers:1- technical specs of a data center ( in- progress)2- security specs ( complete) servises provided (complete) 3-general specs (complete) 4- general layout (in-progress)

hope i didnt miss anything

many thanks and regards for you to clear your opinion out.

 

bobkberg  |   Feb 26 2006  4:31PM GMT

I’m not sure, but I suspect that you may be approaching this backwards.

The key reason being that there is no “standard” way to lay out a data center, because every data center is a reflection of the individual needs and response to those needs of the organization and people involved. For the same set of requirements (assuming that you could get such a thing), two organizations will produce varying results.

For example, I’ve worked in places where the networking equipment (except for hubs/switches necessary to the servers) is sometimes not even in the same building as the servers/mainframes/etc., as opposed to other places where everything is kept in one large room or series of interconnected rooms. In both cases, the two management chains were separate until you got to the VP level, but the key difference was in the personality and style of the VP.

So, look instead at the common sets of requirements, the way different groups work (or don’t work) together, the overall size and structure of the organization, the requirements placed on the groups from above (logistics, history, legal implications, etc.)

Financial Institutions and Health care groups (In the United States anyway) have stringent legal requirements to protect personal data.

Sometimes the network group started as an offshoot of the desktop group, sometimes from the server/mainframe group, and sometimes from the Telecommunications group, and sometimes from out in left field somewhere (baseball reference for those of you not familiar with it).

Back to your primary subject: Data Center Design…

I did a quick Google search for “Data Center Design” (without the quotes) and got a BUNCH of listings. When I did the same thing with “Data Center Layout” (again, without quotes), it returned only generic responses - most likely because each layout is specific to the needs and people for a given organization. So I’d recommend that you look for the first category. Security-wise it’s certainly not a good idea to put your design out there, but there are lots of suggestions that will help you with the details of how, where, why and such.

Key areas to consider are:
- Networking equipment
– Routers
– Switches
– Firewalls
– IDS/IPS
– Cable Management and Routing
– Redundancy in WAN provisioning (T-1, T-3, DSL, Frame Relay, ISDN, etc.)
- Servers
– Rack Mounted systems
– Floor Mounted systems (mainframe sized stuff)
– Operator Access
– Backup Equipment (Tape, Optical, etc.)
- Power Management
– Power Distribution Systems
– UPS
– Redundant power sources
— Battery Backup
— Generator
— Separate feed from power grid
- Facility Management
– Fire Suppression
– Use of raised floor or Plenum Space
– Requirements for Cooling and Air Flow
– Requirements for dust control
— Air Filtration
— Dust Catching at entrances

That should be enough to get you going.

Bob

 

DCplansec  |   Mar 2 2006  11:20AM GMT

Regarding the facility and technical building systems design of a data center check out a free planning guide available from sun: go to <a href="http://www.sun.com," rel="nofollow">www.sun.com,</a> enter ‘data center site planning guide’ as search criteria. You will find a pdf-file approx. 1.8 MB.
Another good source of information (not free however) would be the TIA-942 standard.

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