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		<title>By: tomliotta</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomliotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not much I can say about the prices paid. They sure seem far out of line in my experience.

In IBM&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.jsp?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/ENUS108-743/index.html&amp;breadCrum=DET001PT022&amp;url=buttonpressed=DET002PT005&amp;specific_index=DET001PEF502&amp;DET015PGL002=DET001PEF011&amp;submit.x=7&amp;submit.y=8&amp;lang=en_US&quot;&gt;Power 520 and Power 550 support the AIX, IBM i, and Linux operating systems&lt;/a&gt; announcement letter, it shows the 4327 installed price as $754. Other, later announcements show even less.

TechTarget &lt;a href=&quot;http://search400.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid3_gci968553,00.html&quot;&gt;&#039;eStorage introduces lower cost 70GB disk drives for iSeries&#039;&lt;/a&gt; article from June 2004 discusses costs and gives IBM list for 4327s way back then as $2800, which is a hundred bucks less than I was thinking for that far back.

I don&#039;t know... maybe I&#039;ve just been lucky; but none of the companies I&#039;ve worked for have paid even as high as &#039;list&#039; price even back when you &lt;i&gt;could&lt;/i&gt; buy direct from IBM easily.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much I can say about the prices paid. They sure seem far out of line in my experience.</p>
<p>In IBM&#8217;s <a href="http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/ShowDoc.jsp?docURL=/common/ssi/rep_ca/3/897/ENUS108-743/index.html&amp;breadCrum=DET001PT022&amp;url=buttonpressed=DET002PT005&amp;specific_index=DET001PEF502&amp;DET015PGL002=DET001PEF011&amp;submit.x=7&amp;submit.y=8&amp;lang=en_US">Power 520 and Power 550 support the AIX, IBM i, and Linux operating systems</a> announcement letter, it shows the 4327 installed price as $754. Other, later announcements show even less.</p>
<p>TechTarget <a href="http://search400.techtarget.com/news/article/0,289142,sid3_gci968553,00.html">&#8216;eStorage introduces lower cost 70GB disk drives for iSeries&#8217;</a> article from June 2004 discusses costs and gives IBM list for 4327s way back then as $2800, which is a hundred bucks less than I was thinking for that far back.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know&#8230; maybe I&#8217;ve just been lucky; but none of the companies I&#8217;ve worked for have paid even as high as &#8216;list&#8217; price even back when you <i>could</i> buy direct from IBM easily.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: woodengineer</title>
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		<dc:creator>woodengineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is your management asking why iSeries drives are more expensive than PC drives?
An IBM is rated for a very high duty cycle - one that would leave a PC drive a smoking mass of bits.  Also, IBM drives typically have double bit error correction.  Perhaps some high-end PC drives have this as well but I don&#039;t know.  Most PC drives have single bit error correction.
We rarely have any problems with our IBM drives.  Its a whole different story with PC drives.
It is not really an apples-to-apples comparison.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is your management asking why iSeries drives are more expensive than PC drives?<br />
An IBM is rated for a very high duty cycle &#8211; one that would leave a PC drive a smoking mass of bits.  Also, IBM drives typically have double bit error correction.  Perhaps some high-end PC drives have this as well but I don&#8217;t know.  Most PC drives have single bit error correction.<br />
We rarely have any problems with our IBM drives.  Its a whole different story with PC drives.<br />
It is not really an apples-to-apples comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: whatis23</title>
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		<dc:creator>whatis23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We just recently paid that amount (2 months ago) which was about in line with the price directly from IBM. 7 months prior to that we also purchased the same amount of DASD for slightly less so the price actually went up $9 per unit. All were purchased new for a FC0595 then the new EXP24.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just recently paid that amount (2 months ago) which was about in line with the price directly from IBM. 7 months prior to that we also purchased the same amount of DASD for slightly less so the price actually went up $9 per unit. All were purchased new for a FC0595 then the new EXP24.</p>
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		<title>By: harisudhan21</title>
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		<dc:creator>harisudhan21</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we are currently using a i550 box and the disk types are 4327 all are 70g one&#039;s]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we are currently using a i550 box and the disk types are 4327 all are 70g one&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: tomliotta</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomliotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;...the cost per new type #4327 70.56GB disk unit is $3,490...&lt;/i&gt;

Back after April, 2004, the new IBM price for 4327 70GB drives was only approx $2900. When did you pay $3490? Prices are quite a bit less nowadays. (And refurbished today, a 4327 can be had &lt;$300.)

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;the cost per new type #4327 70.56GB disk unit is $3,490&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Back after April, 2004, the new IBM price for 4327 70GB drives was only approx $2900. When did you pay $3490? Prices are quite a bit less nowadays. (And refurbished today, a 4327 can be had &lt;$300.)</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: tomliotta</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomliotta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anywhere from maybe $1/GB up to maybe $7/GB and more... it depends on what hardware you currently have, what controllers, where you buy, what drive capabilities/capacities you want...

New or used? That can make a huge difference in that kind of ratio. (I&#039;ve never had a used drive give trouble yet, but they&#039;re always a generation behind, of course. Longest set I currently have in use is eight years old; second oldest set is five years old.)

But for this question, I simply did a trivial query of a reseller&#039;s inventory. No comparisons with others, no looking for deals. I won&#039;t be surprised if both upper and lower limits can be stretched by others.

The drives will always be more expensive than what&#039;s available for PC servers, potentially by large margins. The question must be asked within the context of the business need that&#039;s being addressed.

Tom]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anywhere from maybe $1/GB up to maybe $7/GB and more&#8230; it depends on what hardware you currently have, what controllers, where you buy, what drive capabilities/capacities you want&#8230;</p>
<p>New or used? That can make a huge difference in that kind of ratio. (I&#8217;ve never had a used drive give trouble yet, but they&#8217;re always a generation behind, of course. Longest set I currently have in use is eight years old; second oldest set is five years old.)</p>
<p>But for this question, I simply did a trivial query of a reseller&#8217;s inventory. No comparisons with others, no looking for deals. I won&#8217;t be surprised if both upper and lower limits can be stretched by others.</p>
<p>The drives will always be more expensive than what&#8217;s available for PC servers, potentially by large margins. The question must be asked within the context of the business need that&#8217;s being addressed.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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