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	<title>Comments on: Citrix Metaframe XP management console unavailable</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pressler2904</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to you both!  These answers are indeed timely (even though the question is a bit old) as we are looking at replacing the servers and upgrading to Presentation Server...  Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to you both!  These answers are indeed timely (even though the question is a bit old) as we are looking at replacing the servers and upgrading to Presentation Server&#8230;  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Twlp123</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Metaframe XP have a 24 hr grace period for whitch the console is availlable and the users can still login and use the system. This gives you time to get the server up and runing. Presentation server have extended the grace priod to 72 hours. i must   say that the presentation server has better functionality than XP server. As for your question, it is possible to have a replicate database on another server. If the datastore is based on access database, you may need to convert to SQL database (Presentation server uses SQL and or access, so youhave a choice) In SQL , you can create an update trigger to replicate the data from the current datastore table to another datastore table on a SQL database, located on a different server, running on the same instance of SQL server as the current datastore. The trigger procedure will update the other datastore everytime an update to the current datastore table occurs. Basically you will have a duplicate datastore located on another server at any point of time. If the current server is down, all you have to do is point the location of the datastore to the duplicate server and restart the IMA service (remember you have 24 hrs grace period in XP server)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Metaframe XP have a 24 hr grace period for whitch the console is availlable and the users can still login and use the system. This gives you time to get the server up and runing. Presentation server have extended the grace priod to 72 hours. i must   say that the presentation server has better functionality than XP server. As for your question, it is possible to have a replicate database on another server. If the datastore is based on access database, you may need to convert to SQL database (Presentation server uses SQL and or access, so youhave a choice) In SQL , you can create an update trigger to replicate the data from the current datastore table to another datastore table on a SQL database, located on a different server, running on the same instance of SQL server as the current datastore. The trigger procedure will update the other datastore everytime an update to the current datastore table occurs. Basically you will have a duplicate datastore located on another server at any point of time. If the current server is down, all you have to do is point the location of the datastore to the duplicate server and restart the IMA service (remember you have 24 hrs grace period in XP server)</p>
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		<title>By: Smithc32</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 18:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Metaframe XP is pretty old so I do not know for sure but my understanding is that the datastore is running on a MSSQL server or Oracle Server and if that is down then you can not make any changes to configuration of the Farm. If you have your database in multiple locations using Dataguard for Oracle or Database Mirroring or tran log shipping, something then you would be able to fail over to that and use it as your datastore. Without the database it makes sense that you could not pull up the console as it could not read data in and certainly would not let you modify any of that data. 
I would really suggest upgrading if you can to Presentation server, This will give you some more options for DR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Metaframe XP is pretty old so I do not know for sure but my understanding is that the datastore is running on a MSSQL server or Oracle Server and if that is down then you can not make any changes to configuration of the Farm. If you have your database in multiple locations using Dataguard for Oracle or Database Mirroring or tran log shipping, something then you would be able to fail over to that and use it as your datastore. Without the database it makes sense that you could not pull up the console as it could not read data in and certainly would not let you modify any of that data.<br />
I would really suggest upgrading if you can to Presentation server, This will give you some more options for DR.</p>
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