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		<title>By: Don&#8217;t let your job get shipped away - The Network Hub: A SearchNetworking.com blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don&#8217;t let your job get shipped away - The Network Hub: A SearchNetworking.com blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: melakeside</title>
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		<dc:creator>melakeside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From experience, I know that effective communications is a rare skill.  Training or no training.  I would want to bring that person in, if all other areas met my criteria, and have specific examples of when the effective communications proved itself.  Also, if two candidates looked the same, training and certification have to hold some weight.  It shows one motivated to advance if possible.  Skill, some folks just don&#039;t know how to sell themselves on paper and a face to face will let you know not only are they qualified, but will they get along with your staff, very important!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From experience, I know that effective communications is a rare skill.  Training or no training.  I would want to bring that person in, if all other areas met my criteria, and have specific examples of when the effective communications proved itself.  Also, if two candidates looked the same, training and certification have to hold some weight.  It shows one motivated to advance if possible.  Skill, some folks just don&#8217;t know how to sell themselves on paper and a face to face will let you know not only are they qualified, but will they get along with your staff, very important!</p>
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		<title>By: bigbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2004 10:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interview, Interview, Interview...
what is on paper is paper. Good, probing questions and watch the body que&#039;s. Ask them &quot;What do you think was your most outstanding contribution with XYZ Company&quot;, then ask &quot;What do you think the company thought your most outstanding contribution was?&quot; Keep these for the end of the interview... they will really give you a key indicator of the person&#039;s skills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interview, Interview, Interview&#8230;<br />
what is on paper is paper. Good, probing questions and watch the body que&#8217;s. Ask them &#8220;What do you think was your most outstanding contribution with XYZ Company&#8221;, then ask &#8220;What do you think the company thought your most outstanding contribution was?&#8221; Keep these for the end of the interview&#8230; they will really give you a key indicator of the person&#8217;s skills.</p>
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		<title>By: simplesimon</title>
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		<dc:creator>simplesimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2004 11:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boasting a certification in &quot;Effective Communications&quot; on a resume is basically a method of selling one&#039;s self to a company.  If a cell phone provider boasts &quot;clear communication&quot; would you not test the product and see for yourself?

Selecting human resources is not too different from any other kind of resources.  The candidate must display effective communication in addition to advertising it.  I would only find favor in a resume claiming these skills only if the quality and formatting of their resume attested to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boasting a certification in &#8220;Effective Communications&#8221; on a resume is basically a method of selling one&#8217;s self to a company.  If a cell phone provider boasts &#8220;clear communication&#8221; would you not test the product and see for yourself?</p>
<p>Selecting human resources is not too different from any other kind of resources.  The candidate must display effective communication in addition to advertising it.  I would only find favor in a resume claiming these skills only if the quality and formatting of their resume attested to them.</p>
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		<title>By: etittel</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/certification-in-business-and-personal-communications/#comment-49962</link>
		<dc:creator>etittel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2004 11:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s noteworthy or not depends on the overall context. I agree with others who&#039;ve emphasized experience over other qualifications, and also with those who remark that certs tend to be most significant when 2 or more candidates might otherwise be quite similar in terms of job experience, education, skills, and so forth.

As for certificates on business and personal communications, that doesn&#039;t hold much clout in the more technical fields where I tend to concentrate my efforts.

HTH,
--Ed--

Ed Tittel    2207 Klattenhoff Dr, Austin, TX  78728-5480
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s noteworthy or not depends on the overall context. I agree with others who&#8217;ve emphasized experience over other qualifications, and also with those who remark that certs tend to be most significant when 2 or more candidates might otherwise be quite similar in terms of job experience, education, skills, and so forth.</p>
<p>As for certificates on business and personal communications, that doesn&#8217;t hold much clout in the more technical fields where I tend to concentrate my efforts.</p>
<p>HTH,<br />
&#8211;Ed&#8211;</p>
<p>Ed Tittel    2207 Klattenhoff Dr, Austin, TX  78728-5480<br />
    VP, Content Development &amp; Delivery,  Capstar LLC<br />
    Series Editor, Que Exam Cram 2 &amp; Training Guides<br />
    Visit <a href="http://www.lanw.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lanw.com</a>  and  <a href="http://www.capstarlearning.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.capstarlearning.com</a><br />
phone:512-252-7497   fax:512-252-8439   mbl:512-422-7943</p>
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		<title>By: ericggordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>ericggordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2004 11:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two issues to address here:
1.  Certification
2.  Communication Skills

Regarding the former, I would not undervalue certification and or any advanced training.  These &quot;test&quot; are designed to showcase a professional&#039;s ability to grasp technical and or business knowledge, concepts, strategies, and best practices.  

Granted I would not value certification alone, but they are a worthy stamp.  Extensive practical experience does not automatically equate or translate to &quot;successful&quot; management, administration, support or implementation.

If you are afforded the opportunity and time, I would recommend a three-tier interview process as follows: (1) interview candidates based on resume to job description match and cater questions toward what value will this individual bring to the table/team; (2) if candidate passes first round, setup a &quot;hands-on&quot; interview that addresses the individuals professed core competencies and skills as they directly meet your requirements; (3) in a final third round, have the individual meet with other members of your team/department in effort to gauge the relationship.

Regarding the later (i.e., communication), pay particular attention to the resume.  If the candidate has indeed acquired effective communication skills, these will be manifested throughout the resume.  You may also wish to setup a phone interview to gauge the same.

The key to this type of selection process is to determine if extensive and effective communication skills are required for the position.  Will this individual interface with the business stakeholders and executive decision makers; will be individual work with out team members and take project lead as deemed appropriate.  In other words, how communicative is the position.

There are a lot of talented skilled individuals wihtin IT that unfortunately are not the most personable.  But if teamed up with the right peers can bring a tremendous value to the organization.

Long story short:  paper is paper, find a match that would get the candidate in the door, but be very meticulous in your interview process.  Remember, the wrong decision is more costly than having to invest in an employees growth and development.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two issues to address here:<br />
1.  Certification<br />
2.  Communication Skills</p>
<p>Regarding the former, I would not undervalue certification and or any advanced training.  These &#8220;test&#8221; are designed to showcase a professional&#8217;s ability to grasp technical and or business knowledge, concepts, strategies, and best practices.  </p>
<p>Granted I would not value certification alone, but they are a worthy stamp.  Extensive practical experience does not automatically equate or translate to &#8220;successful&#8221; management, administration, support or implementation.</p>
<p>If you are afforded the opportunity and time, I would recommend a three-tier interview process as follows: (1) interview candidates based on resume to job description match and cater questions toward what value will this individual bring to the table/team; (2) if candidate passes first round, setup a &#8220;hands-on&#8221; interview that addresses the individuals professed core competencies and skills as they directly meet your requirements; (3) in a final third round, have the individual meet with other members of your team/department in effort to gauge the relationship.</p>
<p>Regarding the later (i.e., communication), pay particular attention to the resume.  If the candidate has indeed acquired effective communication skills, these will be manifested throughout the resume.  You may also wish to setup a phone interview to gauge the same.</p>
<p>The key to this type of selection process is to determine if extensive and effective communication skills are required for the position.  Will this individual interface with the business stakeholders and executive decision makers; will be individual work with out team members and take project lead as deemed appropriate.  In other words, how communicative is the position.</p>
<p>There are a lot of talented skilled individuals wihtin IT that unfortunately are not the most personable.  But if teamed up with the right peers can bring a tremendous value to the organization.</p>
<p>Long story short:  paper is paper, find a match that would get the candidate in the door, but be very meticulous in your interview process.  Remember, the wrong decision is more costly than having to invest in an employees growth and development.</p>
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		<title>By: richardg12</title>
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		<dc:creator>richardg12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2004 10:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would be curious as to how the individual came to taking such a course/certification.  If they had to take it because of a weakness in their overall &quot;portfolio&quot; then I would not be swayed by it. If it was a company wide initiative then it&#039;s just a nice to have, in my opinion. Good interpersonal skills are not necessarily learned or taught once you start in the workplace.  It stems from your personality and how you treat other people.  Even after learning all the &quot;right&quot; things to do, many will continue on the way they have always been. In the area of communication skills, references and examples are probably worth a great deal more than a piece of paper. 
I guess having said all this, I did notice the certificate for far different reasons than likely intended. However, I would not consider the holder of such a certificate any more valuable, or desirable over another. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be curious as to how the individual came to taking such a course/certification.  If they had to take it because of a weakness in their overall &#8220;portfolio&#8221; then I would not be swayed by it. If it was a company wide initiative then it&#8217;s just a nice to have, in my opinion. Good interpersonal skills are not necessarily learned or taught once you start in the workplace.  It stems from your personality and how you treat other people.  Even after learning all the &#8220;right&#8221; things to do, many will continue on the way they have always been. In the area of communication skills, references and examples are probably worth a great deal more than a piece of paper.<br />
I guess having said all this, I did notice the certificate for far different reasons than likely intended. However, I would not consider the holder of such a certificate any more valuable, or desirable over another. </p>
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		<title>By: alnoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>alnoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2004 10:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recruiting is a sensitive process and you must have some indicators about performance. This can be the &quot;certification&quot; if both candidates have equal experience. It is sensitive as it is subjective. My opinion would be: besides their qualities written in the curriculum, how are you comfortable with both of them? That&#039;s the ultimate question.
Regards]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recruiting is a sensitive process and you must have some indicators about performance. This can be the &#8220;certification&#8221; if both candidates have equal experience. It is sensitive as it is subjective. My opinion would be: besides their qualities written in the curriculum, how are you comfortable with both of them? That&#8217;s the ultimate question.<br />
Regards</p>
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		<title>By: expertjohnbrandt</title>
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		<dc:creator>expertjohnbrandt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2004 10:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And if two had equal experience, would training and certifications make a difference?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if two had equal experience, would training and certifications make a difference?</p>
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