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		<title>By: joshua2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What do you &#039;want&#039; to do most in Tech?  Whatever you decide - start with that one.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you &#8216;want&#8217; to do most in Tech?  Whatever you decide &#8211; start with that one.  </p>
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		<title>By: pilot737</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/certification-help/#comment-45555</link>
		<dc:creator>pilot737</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank alot for your advice it was very helpfull and informative. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank alot for your advice it was very helpfull and informative. </p>
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		<title>By: itdefpat1</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/certification-help/#comment-45556</link>
		<dc:creator>itdefpat1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 22:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All previous answers are solid, good advice. CCNA focused on network, MCSA on Operating system; RHSE similar for linux. Any of the CompTIA (end with a + like network+, etc.) are also good starting places, not specific to vendor. These good way to get into IT. Going with these - non-vendor - may help you to adapt to &quot;anything&quot; if you don&#039;t know which vendor being used. Be sure to remember to continue certifications - vendor specific or technology.

I&#039;m not so clear on telecom.

Ed Tittle writes on several tech target sites  (search securty, search network, etc.) - he is respected authority. For certification info, look at certcities.com and certmag.com also - Ec publishes there also. 

I&#039;m formerly MS, Novell and Checkpoint certs; also  network, disaster recovery certs. Current ISACA.org CISM and ISC2.org CISSP certs. Hoping to do INCOSE.org CSEP soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All previous answers are solid, good advice. CCNA focused on network, MCSA on Operating system; RHSE similar for linux. Any of the CompTIA (end with a + like network+, etc.) are also good starting places, not specific to vendor. These good way to get into IT. Going with these &#8211; non-vendor &#8211; may help you to adapt to &#8220;anything&#8221; if you don&#8217;t know which vendor being used. Be sure to remember to continue certifications &#8211; vendor specific or technology.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so clear on telecom.</p>
<p>Ed Tittle writes on several tech target sites  (search securty, search network, etc.) &#8211; he is respected authority. For certification info, look at certcities.com and certmag.com also &#8211; Ec publishes there also. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m formerly MS, Novell and Checkpoint certs; also  network, disaster recovery certs. Current ISACA.org CISM and ISC2.org CISSP certs. Hoping to do INCOSE.org CSEP soon.</p>
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		<title>By: thevyrys</title>
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		<dc:creator>thevyrys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 15:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You will no doubt get many great angles on this question.....as you can see already. 

Your idea of starting with CCNA is a good idea too. It will definitely help you get a good foundation for the rest of the certs you mention....whether it be Microsoft, Redhat, blah blah blah...most any employers networks all use routing, switches, etc. and that is a lot of what CCNA helps with. 

As others have mentioned, A+ is something to go with early as well, and then Network +. If you get those covered, you will have made yourself quite marketable for now to get employed, and then be primed and ready to plow through the next level of certs, no matter which ones you decide on later.

Hang in there and by all means don&#039;t just get the paper certs. Make em count or you will be looking for &#039;another&#039; job later.
Your programming should look like this:

BEGIN sudanCCNAA+Network+
IF Certs=yes
THEN C:megetgoodjob=TRUE
END

Good luck!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You will no doubt get many great angles on this question&#8230;..as you can see already. </p>
<p>Your idea of starting with CCNA is a good idea too. It will definitely help you get a good foundation for the rest of the certs you mention&#8230;.whether it be Microsoft, Redhat, blah blah blah&#8230;most any employers networks all use routing, switches, etc. and that is a lot of what CCNA helps with. </p>
<p>As others have mentioned, A+ is something to go with early as well, and then Network +. If you get those covered, you will have made yourself quite marketable for now to get employed, and then be primed and ready to plow through the next level of certs, no matter which ones you decide on later.</p>
<p>Hang in there and by all means don&#8217;t just get the paper certs. Make em count or you will be looking for &#8216;another&#8217; job later.<br />
Your programming should look like this:</p>
<p>BEGIN sudanCCNAA+Network+<br />
IF Certs=yes<br />
THEN C:megetgoodjob=TRUE<br />
END</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: drillo</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/certification-help/#comment-45558</link>
		<dc:creator>drillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I basically agree with the others.  Of course you will get variations on the theme depending on where certain loyalties lie.  I am curious thought about the infrastructure in you area.  If you are a telecom type and there are major builds going on in the country&#039;s infrastructure, why not get in on it?  Wireless is an interesting and fun technology to be involved in.  I have been working with it in various capacities for a while now, and I really enjoy it.  There could be some very lucrative opportunities on the ground floor if you play your cards right.

Just my thoughts,
Best of luck to you,
Paul]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I basically agree with the others.  Of course you will get variations on the theme depending on where certain loyalties lie.  I am curious thought about the infrastructure in you area.  If you are a telecom type and there are major builds going on in the country&#8217;s infrastructure, why not get in on it?  Wireless is an interesting and fun technology to be involved in.  I have been working with it in various capacities for a while now, and I really enjoy it.  There could be some very lucrative opportunities on the ground floor if you play your cards right.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts,<br />
Best of luck to you,<br />
Paul</p>
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		<title>By: whalverson</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/certification-help/#comment-45559</link>
		<dc:creator>whalverson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 11:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The other responses have given you a good idea on the sequencing of the courses.  As a hiring manager, I can tell you that I would also be curious about how you fit your specialized knowledge of Microsoft and Cisco products into the larger arena on internetworking.  RedHat is a UNIX based product and therefore represents a completely different design philosophy towards networking than either Microscoft or Cisco.

Don&#039;t limit your training by only learning how to configure a vendor&#039;s product line.  Product knowledge is not sufficient; it is only necessary.  You have to understand the limitations of a vendor&#039;s product line and how it confines your choices.

Best wishes for a great career!

William
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The other responses have given you a good idea on the sequencing of the courses.  As a hiring manager, I can tell you that I would also be curious about how you fit your specialized knowledge of Microsoft and Cisco products into the larger arena on internetworking.  RedHat is a UNIX based product and therefore represents a completely different design philosophy towards networking than either Microscoft or Cisco.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t limit your training by only learning how to configure a vendor&#8217;s product line.  Product knowledge is not sufficient; it is only necessary.  You have to understand the limitations of a vendor&#8217;s product line and how it confines your choices.</p>
<p>Best wishes for a great career!</p>
<p>William</p>
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		<title>By: rknrlkid</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/certification-help/#comment-45560</link>
		<dc:creator>rknrlkid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me give you the solution we use at the school I work at.  Not everyone agrees with it, but it does appear to cover most bases for most employees everywhere.  Get your certifications in the following order:

CompTIA A+
Comptia Network+
ANY Microsoft test for MCP
MCSA
CCNA
CompTIA Security+

Here&#039;s the logic behind it: 

1.  Many American firms are now requiring at a minimum A+ and Network+.  These verify entry level skills.

2.  Take at least one Microsoft certification to become a Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP).  Uusally this test is the first in the series for MCSA/MCSE:  70-210 (Windows 2000 Professional) or 70-270 (Windows XP Professional).

3.  MCSA or CCNA can be done alternatively.  CCNA is actually more valuable, and parts of the CCNA training will prepare you for the Net+.  But the Microsoft tests help give you greater credibility overall with employers.

Now, note that these are not done overnight.  You are looking at a PROCESS that takes several years.  Start out with the A+ and Net+, to document your entry level skills.  Use these to get you a job, and keep plugging away at certifications to demonstrate your growth and proficiency.

One word of warning though:  These tests are no joke.  I&#039;ve seen many people think they can take one without preparation, and fail miserably.  They are too expensive to be taking just to fail.  In some cases its computer trivia, so you have to know what the test writers are looking for.  

Good luck on starting the process!  As someone who has done it (and still doing it), I can tell you its a lot of work, but reqarding, and will definitely set you apart from the rest of the job seeking crowd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me give you the solution we use at the school I work at.  Not everyone agrees with it, but it does appear to cover most bases for most employees everywhere.  Get your certifications in the following order:</p>
<p>CompTIA A+<br />
Comptia Network+<br />
ANY Microsoft test for MCP<br />
MCSA<br />
CCNA<br />
CompTIA Security+</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the logic behind it: </p>
<p>1.  Many American firms are now requiring at a minimum A+ and Network+.  These verify entry level skills.</p>
<p>2.  Take at least one Microsoft certification to become a Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP).  Uusally this test is the first in the series for MCSA/MCSE:  70-210 (Windows 2000 Professional) or 70-270 (Windows XP Professional).</p>
<p>3.  MCSA or CCNA can be done alternatively.  CCNA is actually more valuable, and parts of the CCNA training will prepare you for the Net+.  But the Microsoft tests help give you greater credibility overall with employers.</p>
<p>Now, note that these are not done overnight.  You are looking at a PROCESS that takes several years.  Start out with the A+ and Net+, to document your entry level skills.  Use these to get you a job, and keep plugging away at certifications to demonstrate your growth and proficiency.</p>
<p>One word of warning though:  These tests are no joke.  I&#8217;ve seen many people think they can take one without preparation, and fail miserably.  They are too expensive to be taking just to fail.  In some cases its computer trivia, so you have to know what the test writers are looking for.  </p>
<p>Good luck on starting the process!  As someone who has done it (and still doing it), I can tell you its a lot of work, but reqarding, and will definitely set you apart from the rest of the job seeking crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: bugdown</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/itanswers/certification-help/#comment-45561</link>
		<dc:creator>bugdown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2006 09:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I am going to try to answer to your questions briefly. I am somewhat in the same type of situation you found yourself in.

1)	It is good to start with your CCNA; it permits you to have a broader understanding of computer network.
2)	From my experience I would suggest that you get you Microsoft certification. Although Linux is important Microsoft still plays a major role in the computer world. Saying that, you should, on your own time, try master UNIX or Linux, later on you can even go for your RedHat certifications.

3)	I am not too familiar with wireless technology

Finally when it comes to IT, experience matters the most. Certifications can only help you to get a job, but it won&#039;t help you to keep the job.

 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I am going to try to answer to your questions briefly. I am somewhat in the same type of situation you found yourself in.</p>
<p>1)	It is good to start with your CCNA; it permits you to have a broader understanding of computer network.<br />
2)	From my experience I would suggest that you get you Microsoft certification. Although Linux is important Microsoft still plays a major role in the computer world. Saying that, you should, on your own time, try master UNIX or Linux, later on you can even go for your RedHat certifications.</p>
<p>3)	I am not too familiar with wireless technology</p>
<p>Finally when it comes to IT, experience matters the most. Certifications can only help you to get a job, but it won&#8217;t help you to keep the job.</p>
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