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How is the free antivirus Avast? Is it a good antivirus?

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  • CharlieBrowne
    I have used it without any problems
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  • TomLiotta
    If it works for you on your systems, then it's good. Otherwise, it isn't. . Tom
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  • jinteik
    a few of my friends are using it too without complains
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  • Subhendu Sen
    Avast free version is rally good. Only u have to do run update time to time, although it has mechanism to update itself when it gets internet conn, however it is necessary to update manually also.
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  • CarlCioffi
    Why didn't you just stay with the free microsoft applications? It would seem you got rid of windows defender for some unknown reason and microsoft offers the security essentials which works fine and is free. It also does automatic updates without a problem.
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  • TomLiotta

    Why didn’t you just stay with the free microsoft applications?

    Perhaps because nobody should stay with them.

    If you bought a car from a manufacturer and the manufacturer later came out with add-on products that claimed to protect the steering and braking systems from going out of control, and every new model from the manufacturer continued to have the same kinds of problems for 20 or more years, how much faith would you have in the engineering capabilities of the company?

    Wouldn't you wonder why protections weren't simply engineered into the product?

    But maybe more important, there is a thriving 3rd-party market involved. Good, free products are available. These are often given away as advertising and good-will efforts. If the free versions work, the providers gain paying customers for more sophisticated products.

    The 3rd-party providers can afford to do the research because the business model has been working. It's not a huge bunch of cash for most of them, yet it does motivate many eyes to be looking into all imaginable areas.

    But what happens when there's a significant hit to the "free from 3rd-party" usage? What happens when Microsoft 'free' add-on security takes away from the business of others? Funding will slowly drop.

    The fewer competent 3rd-party eyes that are investigating, the less secure we all become. Fewer 3rd-party eyes gives more advantage to the Microsoft add-on offerings, and that can only result in more disruption for the market. Any significant move towards Microsoft security add-ons is only in Microsoft's interests.

    It is a business area that Microsoft should not be in except for improvement to the base products themselves. It's an add-on area for them that we should strongly discourage, both as consumers and as IT pros.

    Tom

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  • CarlCioffi
    Well Tom, I guess I just don't see your point because I've never paid for anti-virus software so tell me where they are making money. You get it at comcast for free, it expires after a year and you automatically get sent to the norton or mcafee site to purchase a subscription. However, if you just go back to the comcast site and redownload it you don't pay a nickel and the person looking for the avast free version probably isn't going to pay for anything. I don't know of anybody who pays for anti-virus protection except in the corporate world. I also disagree with your "what if" car scenario, what does that have to do with microsoft security essentials? This really sounds like an "i hate microsoft" discussion.
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  • TomLiotta

    ...I guess I just don’t see your point because I’ve never paid for anti-virus software so tell me where they are making money.

    Since ITKE is intended for discussions between and among "IT professionals", a reasonable assumption is that any usage discussed here will be in a business setting.

    In that case, even Microsoft Security Essentials is not freely licensed (unless it is installed on a home system or in a home-based business or a general small business and is used on 10 or fewer PCs). (Read the EULA or read an example statement from Microsoft at Virus and Malware.)

    If you are installing an actual open-source AV such as ClamAV, the discussion might be different. And if you've been using other products in violation of the licenses for those products, the discussion will definitely be different.

    Or if you know of a non-OSS product that grants rights for unlimited use in commercial enterprises, please let us know. One thing we do know is that it won't be Avast nor Microsoft Security Essentials (MSSE).

    The "free" versions of nearly all 'products' are intended both to increase general Internet security by allowing less educated home users to gain basic protection so that their systems are causing less trouble for everyone else and to let us "IT pros" gain easy and personal experience so that we can make informed decisions about license purchases.

    My point was specifically about how MSSE interferes with us as "IT pros" in our related work. I possibly should have stated that explicitly, but it shouldn't be necessary. Anyone using this forum should have read and understood the site purpose given in the site FAQ. It shouldn't be necessary to restate it in individual posts.

    Many of us might know that there is unethical use of such "free" products, but that doesn't mean we should support it nor condone it.

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  • CarlCioffi
    Well put Tom but I would never condone unethical use of any free software.  I'm a software engineer and I really dislike it when people pirate software for obvious reasons.  The original question didn't state that this was for more than a home PC and my answer was based on that assumption.  I've been doing this since 1975 and I've used a dozen different AV programs free and paid.  Most of the free ones have some kind of reduced functionality and the paid ones well they all have their flaws.  I now use MS security essentials, it has all of the required functionality and for small business and home use it fits the bill and it doesn't bog down my system.
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  • TomLiotta

    For home use, it still matters. But there shouldn't be much point to it in ITKE except in discussions among those who actually service home users. We shouldn't simply provide free service when there are other IT pros who work for a living doing it.

    Even those who simply work in retail outlets can be affected by a world-accessible site such as ITKE. Most of us wouldn't like consultants offering to do our jobs for free. We should consider the effects of what's posted here on those who should be handling the questions.

    ITKE isn't intended for home service. If more "home" questions are answered, more actual IT pros will avoid the site. The value of the site fades. And if every question is treated as if it came from an IT pro who actually needed help with a professional issue, then each question can become valuable in itself.

    It's up to us members to decide whether to participate according to the site's stated purpose.

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  • Subhendu Sen
    It is not necessary that, every time paid SW r working well. I am using free/open source software extensively. I like to use free/OSS but of course dislike to use pirated SW. SW developers make these sw with their knowledge and labour, so it is obviously that we should purchase sw which is non-free with proper cost and actual use. However, I am using a free utility called "MWAV" for so many times and get satisfied results, it is an emergency virus cleaner tool that helps a lot. It is not right for every time that, free sw is less capacity than purchased SW.
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  • CarlCioffi
    I guess I just don't see the point to this discussion at all then because it started out with a discussion of a free AVAST version and I'm sure that person was a home user with no intention of paying for any added features and MSSE does help IT pros because I'm pretty certain Microsoft isn't staffed with robots.  Those engineers get paid as well so just because Microsoft offers it for free doesn't mean you haven't paid for it when you purchased the OS from them.
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  • CarlCioffi
    It’s up to us members to decide whether to participate according to the site’s stated purpose.What exactly is this site's stated purpose?  I didn't think it was just for IT professionals so point me to something that says it has a purpose other than answering IT questions.Are you saying we shouldn't be answering IT questions for home users?My view is we shouldn't be answering questions for other IT pros because we should be getting paid for those answers.
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  • TomLiotta
    I didn’t think it was just for IT professionals so point me to something that says it has a purpose other than answering IT questions. Every page here has a link to the site FAQ, as most similar sites have. We are expected to know what FAQs are and how to locate them. From the FAQ: What is ITKnowledgeExchange? ITKnowledgeExchange is a community site where IT professionals can ask and answer technical questions, discuss issues with peers, and read expert blogs covering topics across the IT industry (you can also start your own blog if you’d like). Yet, as volunteer members, we still can choose which questions to answer and how. A trend in the past couple years has been to have fewer serious 'IT pro' questions and more "my TV won't work. what do i do?" questions without any useful background included. The number of useful IT pros participating has tended to drop, and the site value has dropped accordingly. My preference is to keep the stated site purpose in mind in hopes of drawing skills back to the site. Your previous comment and this one of mine fits under "discuss issues with peers". Tom
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  • TomLiotta
    I guess I just don’t see the point to this discussion at all then because it started out with a discussion of a free AVAST version... I agree. In that context, bringing MSSE into it isn't appropriate. Windows Defender in particular might not have even been a useful option. The OP's OS hadn't even been mentioned yet. Avast also runs on platforms that don't run Windows Defender, and an IT pro might be asking about a Linux server. (And if it's assumed to be a home user, it's potentially extra complication for a simple question.) Tom
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  • CarlCioffi
    I have to agree.  I have seen a lot of questions asked here and wondered how this person got by in life when they ask things like "How to turn it on?" and the answer obviously is "Press the power button.".  Those kinds of questions do tend to turn away IT Pros.  Yes, there are some pretty pathetic questions asked with little or no other information given and I have found when you find a question that's real there are very few responses.  A friend of mine did that to me recently.  His printer wasn't working so he bought me a couple of drinks one night at the local watering hole and afterwards I went over to his house and plugged in the printer.
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