Thanks Dvnobles for you help. I will try that. My next question is, when I upgraded to lotus notes 8, I noticed that it looked slightly different when I upgraded compared to when it is a fresh install on a machine that never had lotus installed on it. For example an a pc that has never had lotus notes on it the mail options has; New, Reply, Reply to All, Forward, a picture of a folder, a picutre of a flag, a picture of a trash can, More, a picture of a refrech symbol, and a picture of a cloud for the chat feature. when i upgraded a pc that had an older version of lotus Notes on it the mail features are different. It has New Memo instead of New, Reply, Reply to All, Forward, Delete, Follow Up, the word Folder instead of a picture, Copy into New, the word Chat instead of a picutre, Tools, View. I checked the version on both installations and confirmed that they both are version 8.0.2. Also the install on the new pc has the recall message button and the pc's that had the older version do not. I researched the recall message button and it told me that if you do not see it then the lotus notes administrator had disabled it. In this case that is not an issue because all of the new pc's has the recall message button in the Sent portion of the emails. What may be causing me to have two different looks but have the same versions. I tried to copy and paste some screen shots but it will not let me. I can email you the screen shots if you need more clarification.