Comments on: What you can do to spur growth in System i http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/ A Search400.com blog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:58:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Lombardo http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-631 Lombardo Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:10:58 +0000 http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-631 How many young smart developer have you "converted" to RPG recently? How many teacher have you convinced to teach RPG in their courses? How many young smart developer have you “converted” to RPG recently? How many teacher have you convinced to teach RPG in their courses?

]]> By: Dmgibbs http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-630 Dmgibbs Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:35:21 +0000 http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-630 Who needs a 'gui' in RPG? In the WEB 2.0 world, RPG is the [B]BEST[/B] language in the world to act as a back end for business rules & such. Use PHP or JSP for the web front end, or Java & SWT if you're creating a thick client. Use the right tool for the job. RPG is the tool for business rools, there are many tooling options for the back end. Who needs a ‘gui’ in RPG?

In the WEB 2.0 world, RPG is the BEST language in the world to act as a back end for business rules & such.

Use PHP or JSP for the web front end, or Java & SWT if you’re creating a thick client.

Use the right tool for the job. RPG is the tool for business rools, there are many tooling options for the back end.

]]> By: AngusTheiTChap http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-629 AngusTheiTChap Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:19:20 +0000 http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-629 Mr. Lombardo, regardless of the technology of the tool, HATS ~is~ a native GUI and ~does~ work with RPG. And how about this statement of direction from October 20, 2009? http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/i/rossmauri/index.html Russ says "IBM Rational® product enhancements to RPG-enable programs simply to work with a broad range of client applications, including web services, mobile devices and XML." Get ready to teach RPG at your local school! Mr. Lombardo, regardless of the technology of the tool, HATS ~is~ a native GUI and ~does~ work with RPG.

And how about this statement of direction from October 20, 2009? <a href="http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/i/rossmauri/index.html" title="http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/software/i/rossmauri/index.html" target="_blank">http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/soft…</a>

Russ says “IBM Rational® product enhancements to RPG-enable programs simply to work with a broad range of client applications, including web services, mobile devices and XML.”

Get ready to teach RPG at your local school!

]]> By: Lombardo http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-628 Lombardo Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:24:57 +0000 http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-628 @AngusTheiTChap Webfacing and HATS are only screen- scraping tools, non really bound to RPG. Moreover, they are constantly changing. PHP is good but, well, it's not RPG! CGIDEV is the only real GUI for RPG, but I don't feel it as "officially" supported by IBM: indeed it is not included in the official Italian education courses, as you can see here: http://bit.ly/4otCYQ As you can see, I think I'm well informed. @AngusTheiTChap

Webfacing and HATS are only screen- scraping tools, non really bound to RPG. Moreover, they are constantly changing.
PHP is good but, well, it’s not RPG!

CGIDEV is the only real GUI for RPG, but I don’t feel it as “officially” supported by IBM: indeed it is not included in the official Italian education courses, as you can see here: <a href="http://bit.ly/4otCYQ" title="http://bit.ly/4otCYQ" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/4otCYQ</a>

As you can see, I think I’m well informed.

]]> By: AngusTheiTChap http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-627 AngusTheiTChap Thu, 29 Oct 2009 21:22:53 +0000 http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-627 Regardless of what Mr. Lombardo suggests, there are several "official" means to writing GUIs on IBM i and using RPG. Webfacing was the "official" GUI tool, and now HATS takes that role. Official and GUI, just not elegant. CGIDEV is "officially" supported by IBM and allows direct delivery of HTML (which some people consider GUI). PHP is a modern language that can run on IBM i and is "officially" supported by IBM. PHP can talk directly to the DB2 database files that the RPG built applications are using. PHP is "official" and delivers HTML. There are numerous third party software vendors who are "official" business partners that provide any form of refacing and repurposing tools to deliver GUI. This is an argument based on misinformation. Mr. Lombardo, you are now informed, and I encourage you to get yourself to the local school and inform them! Regardless of what Mr. Lombardo suggests, there are several “official” means to writing GUIs on IBM i and using RPG.

Webfacing was the “official” GUI tool, and now HATS takes that role. Official and GUI, just not elegant.

CGIDEV is “officially” supported by IBM and allows direct delivery of HTML (which some people consider GUI).

PHP is a modern language that can run on IBM i and is “officially” supported by IBM. PHP can talk directly to the DB2 database files that the RPG built applications are using. PHP is “official” and delivers HTML.

There are numerous third party software vendors who are “official” business partners that provide any form of refacing and repurposing tools to deliver GUI.

This is an argument based on misinformation. Mr. Lombardo, you are now informed, and I encourage you to get yourself to the local school and inform them!

]]> By: Lombardo http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-626 Lombardo Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:42:59 +0000 http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/iseries/what-you-can-do-to-spur-growth-in-system-i/#comment-626 How can we talk to our local school about RPG, if there is no "official" way of writing GUIs in RPG? We tried to hire young people on RPG, but no GUI, no guy! How can we talk to our local school about RPG, if there is no “official” way of writing GUIs in RPG?

We tried to hire young people on RPG, but no GUI, no guy!

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