Comments on: Oracle sues SAP: Analysts say charges are serious

By: Jeff Jacobson

Jeff Jacobson — Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:50:02 +0000

Any third-party support company would be better named YesterdayForever rather than TommorrowNow. Beyond that, SAP made the aquisition to be a thorn to Oracle, and it appears to have become SAP’s transiant annoyance. It seems to me that people call them “big bad Oracle” or “big bad SAP,” but this issue probably happened at a very low level in the offices in Texas. I would assume that there is a good deal of autonomy for how they conduct operations there. SAP as a whole does not really aquire a competative advantage out of this, and I doubt they would sanction such activities. It is more the act of a bunch of hackers and hacks who have never learned any discipline in a larger corperate environment than any grandeous plot. I can understand the bad feelings at the Oracle side when an arm of an arch rival is doing something of this ilk, and I can understand the desire to respond, but like so many cases before it, the gauntlet being tossed is the biggest wave that will be felt.

By: Chistopher Evans

Chistopher Evans — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 01:23:28 +0000

It seems that Oracle never expected such fierce competition from SAP. Now Oracle fears it will lose in the lucrative third-party enterprise software maintenance market, and in a desperate and dishonest attempt (one of the many Oracle stratagems to damage competition), it decides that the best plan is to come out with this suit.

A common sense question to ask oneself: Had SAP wanted to gather some industry intelligence on its strongest competitor, would it have resorted to do so through a wholly-owned subsidiary? There would be more “intelligent” ways to do so, wouldn’t there? And now considering that SAP is Europe’s largest software corporation?

By: Larry Cumber

Larry Cumber — Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:41:06 +0000

Surprisingly enough if SAP knowingly breaked into Oracle’s Password Protected Customer Support systems, then that is a Serious Security Breach. But The Question to ask is “If SAP had not done what it did, if its proven to be true,then,would they have gotten to were they are now”? So, Let SAP prove Oracle wrong..

By: R. Vanhecke

R. Vanhecke — Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:07:23 +0000

Don’t think that SAP knowingly broke into Oracle’s machines. Most likely what happened was that a customer who used to have Oracle support passed the old (and still functioning) user and password to the tech people at TomorrowNow, who were stupied enough to use it.

By: Gary Wollman

Gary Wollman — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:52:07 +0000

I a big firm like Oracle can be breached. Assuming that they use their own software, where does that leave their clients who relie on Oracle Applications to provide state of the art security for our applications?

By: Guardianangel

Guardianangel — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:21:51 +0000

If in contrary the allegation prove wrong, it will show the desparation of Oracle trying to prove their buying spree really is successful…

By: CG Houston

CG Houston — Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:51:11 +0000

The allegations, if true, demonstrate a level of desperation (and outright stupidity) by SAP. It will be difficult for SAP to excuse these wholesale thefts as acts of rogue employees that upper management did not sanction and was unaware. Let’s see what happens if/when SAP fires those responsible for the thefts — and what the alleged thieves have to say about whether they acted on their own or at the behest of SAP management. Also, the worst case scenario is not just a large fine/punitive damages as some commentators have suggested. Oracle has demanded an accounting, which will throw open SAP TN’s books, and as you suggest, it will be the death knell of TomorrowNow, and a public relations disaster for SAP.