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	<title>Comments on: OpenSolaris users group to Ian Murdock, Sun: You&#8217;re missing the point</title>
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		<title>By: Linux Non-compete Agreements? &#171; rand($thoughts);</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linux Non-compete Agreements? &#171; rand($thoughts);</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Most folks responding to the story at Slashdot and apparently those in attendance at an OpenSolaris user group in NYC (which fellow IBMer Mike Dolan attended) think Project Indiana is either (1) a Linux copy thing that should Sun should give up on, (2) not something that Solaris customers want, so Sun should stop wasting time and resources on it, or (3) both 1 &#38; 2. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Most folks responding to the story at Slashdot and apparently those in attendance at an OpenSolaris user group in NYC (which fellow IBMer Mike Dolan attended) think Project Indiana is either (1) a Linux copy thing that should Sun should give up on, (2) not something that Solaris customers want, so Sun should stop wasting time and resources on it, or (3) both 1 &amp; 2. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Murdock&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Project Indiana at OSCON today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Murdock&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Project Indiana at OSCON today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Alex Fletcher: &#8220;The blogosphere, or at least the hemisphere which cares about such things, has been busy producing references to the latest series of events surrounding Sun Microsystems&#8217; Project Indiana, the binary distribution of the company&#8217;s OpenSolaris operating system. For example, last week Enterprise Linux Log featured a story about the state of affairs at a recent NYC UNIX user group in Manhattan where things didn&#8217;t seem to go well. However, what I took from news of the event, including commentary from those who attended was entirely different from the way in which the article was seemingly framed.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Alex Fletcher: &#8220;The blogosphere, or at least the hemisphere which cares about such things, has been busy producing references to the latest series of events surrounding Sun Microsystems&#8217; Project Indiana, the binary distribution of the company&#8217;s OpenSolaris operating system. For example, last week Enterprise Linux Log featured a story about the state of affairs at a recent NYC UNIX user group in Manhattan where things didn&#8217;t seem to go well. However, what I took from news of the event, including commentary from those who attended was entirely different from the way in which the article was seemingly framed.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dolan Dot Com &#187; Enterprise Linux Log: &#8220;OpenSolaris users group to Ian Murdock, Sun: You’re missing the point&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dolan Dot Com &#187; Enterprise Linux Log: &#8220;OpenSolaris users group to Ian Murdock, Sun: You’re missing the point&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] URL: http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/07/18/opensolaris-users-group-to-ian-murdock-sun-youre-missing-the-point/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] URL:&nbsp;&lt;a href="http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/07/18/opensolaris-users-group-to-ian-murdock-sun-youre-missing-the-point/" title="http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarget.com/2007/07/18/opensolaris-users-group-to-ian-murdock-sun-youre-missing-the-point/" target="_blank"&gt;http://enterpriselinuxlog.blogs.techtarg&#8230;&lt;/a&gt; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: osViews &#124; osOpinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>osViews &#124; osOpinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;OpenSolaris users group to Ian Murdock, Sun: You’re missing the point&lt;/strong&gt;

President George W. Bush is for all intents and purposes a “lame duck” president. He’s lost his majority and doesn’t really enjoy what people would call the “good graces” of the republic right now. This isn’t a political blog, though, it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;strong&gt;OpenSolaris users group to Ian Murdock, Sun: You’re missing the point&lt;/strong&gt;</p>
<p>President George W. Bush is for all intents and purposes a “lame duck” president. He’s lost his majority and doesn’t really enjoy what people would call the “good graces” of the republic right now. This isn’t a political blog, though, it</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why doesn't sun just relicense these key technologies and then help them get integrated into the existing Linux kernel?  Sun would then be well positioned to become the #1 "enterprise" Linux software and hardware vendor.  They could eat the Linux lunch's of Red Hat, Novell, IBM and HP combined.  Instead, their stubborn resistance to Linux is sending mixed messages and distracting developers and purchasers. Sun needs to swallow their pride and get on board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t sun just relicense these key technologies and then help them get integrated into the existing Linux kernel?  Sun would then be well positioned to become the #1 &#8220;enterprise&#8221; Linux software and hardware vendor.  They could eat the Linux lunch&#8217;s of Red Hat, Novell, IBM and HP combined.  Instead, their stubborn resistance to Linux is sending mixed messages and distracting developers and purchasers. Sun needs to swallow their pride and get on board.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing Ian was very hesitant to talk about last night is the fact that, going forward, it really isn't Enterprise IT that is leading industry spending. (Sun's bread and butter is Enterprise IT.)

They realize that they need to attract the Startups, Web shops, and HPC communities that have flocked to Linux, because this groups are currently deploying applications in a method that will become the standard for almost all application deployments within a few short years. 

OpenSolaris "Indiana" is their attempt to fight Redhat and IBM/Suse for some of this market. We'll see how it goes, but at this point, I think we should start seeing the dropping Solaris numbers start to reverse. (Especially now that Solaris x64 can run in 64-bit mode on a VMWare ESX cluster.)

Anyway, I've been saying for the past few years, "Sun is going to survive in spite of themselves." I still believe that, but I think that now we are starting to see a Sun that, for the most part, isn't trying to commit suicide full-time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing Ian was very hesitant to talk about last night is the fact that, going forward, it really isn&#8217;t Enterprise IT that is leading industry spending. (Sun&#8217;s bread and butter is Enterprise IT.)</p>
<p>They realize that they need to attract the Startups, Web shops, and HPC communities that have flocked to Linux, because this groups are currently deploying applications in a method that will become the standard for almost all application deployments within a few short years. </p>
<p>OpenSolaris &#8220;Indiana&#8221; is their attempt to fight Redhat and IBM/Suse for some of this market. We&#8217;ll see how it goes, but at this point, I think we should start seeing the dropping Solaris numbers start to reverse. (Especially now that Solaris x64 can run in 64-bit mode on a VMWare ESX cluster.)</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;ve been saying for the past few years, &#8220;Sun is going to survive in spite of themselves.&#8221; I still believe that, but I think that now we are starting to see a Sun that, for the most part, isn&#8217;t trying to commit suicide full-time.</p>
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