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	<title>Comments on: Open source pioneer Levanta goes out of business?</title>
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		<title>By: yet another former levanta employee</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/open-source-pioneer-levanta-goes-out-of-business/#comment-1347</link>
		<dc:creator>yet another former levanta employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As another former levanta employee, I have to say that often times the management was pretty out of touch with what was in the code base and how it worked. It made a very Surrealistic environment for trying to develop effective code.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As another former levanta employee, I have to say that often times the management was pretty out of touch with what was in the code base and how it worked. It made a very Surrealistic environment for trying to develop effective code.</p>
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		<title>By: Another former Levana employee</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/open-source-pioneer-levanta-goes-out-of-business/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>Another former Levana employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, I am a former Levanta employee who was also laid off recently. Michael Perry&#039;s comments above on the company&#039;s management style (&quot;You simply cannot run the company like its your personal kingdom&quot;) are sooo true.

As another example of the general approach and attitude of the senior management there, I think everyone there vividly remembers the absolutely nightmarish experience during the time a Swiss guy be the name of Beat Knecht ran the marketing group a few years back. Since then, this name has become synonymous with apocalypse and nigthmare throughout the company. Although he is just one of several examples, he clearly stands out. He not only thought he was above the laws of space and time, as quoted above, he actually thought he was as good as god. In reality, he was the most arrogant, condescending jerk people there have ever met in their entire lives. He was delusional and completely out of touch with reality. For example, at one point he wrote a memo to the entire company on a change in direction of the company. It came completely out of the blue; nobody was prepared, not even the CEO. When he was done sending the email, he walked around the office, and just said, &quot;I (!) have now re-programmed the company,&quot; and then left to go home -- at three in the afternoon. We were all shocked. The email contained &quot;instructions,&quot; group by group. Until then, I didn&#039;t know that employees were there to be &quot;re-programmed&quot; by HIM. Was it the team? No. Was it the leadership who ran the company? No. Was it the CEO? Nope. It was HIM who dared &quot;re-programming&quot; us all via email. We all thought this was absolutely hilarious. Just hilarious, but also very sad. He obviously though he was some kind of Jesus whose mission was to save us mere mortals from the evils of this world. At the end, we all had to laugh out loud in total awe and disbelief. What a moron. We wanted to tell him that it may be a good idea to take a communications class, but then we decided that this would do more harm than good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, I am a former Levanta employee who was also laid off recently. Michael Perry&#8217;s comments above on the company&#8217;s management style (&#8220;You simply cannot run the company like its your personal kingdom&#8221;) are sooo true.</p>
<p>As another example of the general approach and attitude of the senior management there, I think everyone there vividly remembers the absolutely nightmarish experience during the time a Swiss guy be the name of Beat Knecht ran the marketing group a few years back. Since then, this name has become synonymous with apocalypse and nigthmare throughout the company. Although he is just one of several examples, he clearly stands out. He not only thought he was above the laws of space and time, as quoted above, he actually thought he was as good as god. In reality, he was the most arrogant, condescending jerk people there have ever met in their entire lives. He was delusional and completely out of touch with reality. For example, at one point he wrote a memo to the entire company on a change in direction of the company. It came completely out of the blue; nobody was prepared, not even the CEO. When he was done sending the email, he walked around the office, and just said, &#8220;I (!) have now re-programmed the company,&#8221; and then left to go home &#8212; at three in the afternoon. We were all shocked. The email contained &#8220;instructions,&#8221; group by group. Until then, I didn&#8217;t know that employees were there to be &#8220;re-programmed&#8221; by HIM. Was it the team? No. Was it the leadership who ran the company? No. Was it the CEO? Nope. It was HIM who dared &#8220;re-programming&#8221; us all via email. We all thought this was absolutely hilarious. Just hilarious, but also very sad. He obviously though he was some kind of Jesus whose mission was to save us mere mortals from the evils of this world. At the end, we all had to laugh out loud in total awe and disbelief. What a moron. We wanted to tell him that it may be a good idea to take a communications class, but then we decided that this would do more harm than good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/open-source-pioneer-levanta-goes-out-of-business/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 14:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, it&#039;s dead. I know from several former employees. They were all laid off on Monday.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s dead. I know from several former employees. They were all laid off on Monday.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Former Employee</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/open-source-pioneer-levanta-goes-out-of-business/#comment-1343</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Former Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Levanta&#039;s Wiki states its shut down!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levanta&#8217;s Wiki states its shut down!</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur Tyde</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/open-source-pioneer-levanta-goes-out-of-business/#comment-1342</link>
		<dc:creator>Arthur Tyde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most of us who were still in the mix when the board decided to abandon Linuxcare for Levanta thought the product should be launched as a software only offering.  My take is that the company a) was afraid of opening the code, b) concerned that fixing the installer would be too much work, and c) the CEO at the time was a former hardware producer who was biased toward turning the product into an appliance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of us who were still in the mix when the board decided to abandon Linuxcare for Levanta thought the product should be launched as a software only offering.  My take is that the company a) was afraid of opening the code, b) concerned that fixing the installer would be too much work, and c) the CEO at the time was a former hardware producer who was biased toward turning the product into an appliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Former Levata Employee</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/open-source-pioneer-levanta-goes-out-of-business/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>Former Levata Employee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After 7 different VP sales and 8 VP of marketing (10 CEOs) it is hard to blame sales and marketing for the lack of interest in the Levanta product. 

This is a very (read very very) niche product that is suited to a very small segment of users. The fact that one of these users is praising it, does not make Levanta a legitimate business (BTW this user bought one product years ago and nothing since..). 

I applaud the owners of the company for making the tough decision. It was much easier for them to go and do yet another  useless round of financing and keep a brave face while the business is going nowhere.  

I’m not sure if the company shut down as I just spoke with an employee, but they might be in the process of selling it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 7 different VP sales and 8 VP of marketing (10 CEOs) it is hard to blame sales and marketing for the lack of interest in the Levanta product. </p>
<p>This is a very (read very very) niche product that is suited to a very small segment of users. The fact that one of these users is praising it, does not make Levanta a legitimate business (BTW this user bought one product years ago and nothing since..). </p>
<p>I applaud the owners of the company for making the tough decision. It was much easier for them to go and do yet another  useless round of financing and keep a brave face while the business is going nowhere.  </p>
<p>I’m not sure if the company shut down as I just spoke with an employee, but they might be in the process of selling it.</p>
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		<title>By: FORMER LEVANTA EMPLOYEE</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/open-source-pioneer-levanta-goes-out-of-business/#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>FORMER LEVANTA EMPLOYEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its dead.... I have spoke with 3 FORMER EMPLOYEES... dead as of 4/1!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its dead&#8230;. I have spoke with 3 FORMER EMPLOYEES&#8230; dead as of 4/1!</p>
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		<title>By: Groklaw Reader</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/open-source-pioneer-levanta-goes-out-of-business/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>Groklaw Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If their product line was GPL (best if GPLv3),  then the code is there for customers or another to step in and move forward with.

If the coders are employees, then they can start their own effort and move forward with it (even just to support the existing user base).

GPL protects users from all kinds of shocking vendor news.  For example:
Linux.com :: Why proprietary software is dangerous for business ...
by Roblimo Miller
http://www.linux.com/articles/56449
&quot;“the real point here is that an entire medium-sized company&#039;s executive staff has learned a hard lesson about the dangers of proprietary software, and members of that staff who previously resisted open source are now ready to consider it -- and for business continuity reasons rather than as a money-saving measure, no less.”

from:
http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&amp;sid=20080402003610230&amp;title=FOSS%20is%20more%20valuable%20to%20business%20%28programmer%27s%20have%20right%20to%20make%20money%20forever%20with%20FOSS%20code%29&amp;type=article&amp;order=&amp;hideanonymous=0&amp;pid=685297#c685347]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If their product line was GPL (best if GPLv3),  then the code is there for customers or another to step in and move forward with.</p>
<p>If the coders are employees, then they can start their own effort and move forward with it (even just to support the existing user base).</p>
<p>GPL protects users from all kinds of shocking vendor news.  For example:<br />
Linux.com :: Why proprietary software is dangerous for business &#8230;<br />
by Roblimo Miller<br />
<a href="http://www.linux.com/articles/56449" rel="nofollow">http://www.linux.com/articles/56449</a><br />
&#8220;“the real point here is that an entire medium-sized company&#8217;s executive staff has learned a hard lesson about the dangers of proprietary software, and members of that staff who previously resisted open source are now ready to consider it &#8212; and for business continuity reasons rather than as a money-saving measure, no less.”</p>
<p>from:<br />
<a href="http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&#038;sid=20080402003610230&#038;title=FOSS%20is%20more%20valuable%20to%20business%20%28programmer%27s%20have%20right%20to%20make%20money%20forever%20with%20FOSS%20code%29&#038;type=article&#038;order=&#038;hideanonymous=0&#038;pid=685297#c685347" rel="nofollow">http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&#038;sid=20080402003610230&#038;title=FOSS%20is%20more%20valuable%20to%20business%20%28programmer%27s%20have%20right%20to%20make%20money%20forever%20with%20FOSS%20code%29&#038;type=article&#038;order=&#038;hideanonymous=0&#038;pid=685297#c685347</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gallagher</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/open-source-pioneer-levanta-goes-out-of-business/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Gallagher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 04:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Their wiki entry says, &quot;Levanta laid off all employees and went out of business on March 31, 2008.&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linuxcare]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their wiki entry says, &#8220;Levanta laid off all employees and went out of business on March 31, 2008.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linuxcare" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linuxcare</a></p>
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