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		<title>By: Qqandary</title>
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		<description>Ahhhh, No. Despite your investigative fervor, nobody owes you nuthin.

Press rights or Privileges are not addressed in Linux kernel documentation, nor the GPLv2, nor any other license generally considered 'Open Source' that I'm aware of. I know of no body of law that delineates your 'right' to get up in somebodies face and weasel business plans and secrets.
I do not believe that the simple act of delivering a Keynote makes anyone a 'public figure', and strips them of their expectance of privacy.

If an organization comprised of individuals have concerns about confidentiality,
They are well within their rights to limit who participates in or eavesdrops on their conversations.
In this case, The Linux Foundation, is a collection of like minded individuals with common cause. You are obviously not of like mind, and do not share their cause. I see nothing about disclosure in their charter, and nothing about global announcements of innovations in their mission. and try though I might, I can't find a release schedule anywhere.

Nothing within any 'Open Source' license I know of, grants you or anyone else any right to know how the code is being used privately. This includes 'in house'
systems. Nothing prevents limited sharing of information (including code) directly between consenting individuals or organizations. Be they a pair of hobbyists or multinationals.
If there is a commonality among all or most 'Open Source' licenses, it's that you can't sell or profit directly from the efforts of others. Nothing says you can't use it to create products and services of your own, or retain the value of your private modifications.
If they make common contribution of things like bug fixes, home bred utilities, specs, or ideas, or even if they don't, it is exactly within the spirit and intent of the community.

I specifically refute your disengenuous invocation of the term 'elite' as a profane epithet. These might be some high powered people, and perhaps not. But, they are 'elite' only insofar as they don't include you. You want to join the party? Apply for membership. You want to demand a press pass so you can scarf on the buffet? Not likely.

BTW.  I'm not a member either, and have no need or intention to join.  I've been up to my hairline in 'Open Source', as a user, contributer, and stalwart community participant,  probably longer than you've been alive. I run 'Open Source' throughout my organization. If you were to try to ask me what my secret sauce is, I'd laugh and call a cop.

Why, is this central concept not obvious to you? Why are you not championing the supportive environment that welcomes contribution of any scale without demanding it?

There are too many people around that treat 'Open Source' licensing in a cavalier, and even disdainfully haughty fashion. There are criminals unashamedly charging license to code not of their own making. or based on code they received under licenses that specifically exclude such charges.
Go hunt them, and if you want for suspects, let me know.

If you clam Linux, or 'Open Source' in general as your bailiwick, whence comes your insistence upon rights that don't exist? and the intent to enforce by proxy, rights of others that don't exist.
Like any other Paparazzi, you're tryin to make money off hawking information you have no right to. And worse, you're naively, and unabashedly attempting to use your platform and flame words to coerce people that just simply don't want you around.

We in the community, live by the golden rule. You don't like it, leave -- period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh, No. Despite your investigative fervor, nobody owes you nuthin.</p>
<p>Press rights or Privileges are not addressed in Linux kernel documentation, nor the GPLv2, nor any other license generally considered &#8216;Open Source&#8217; that I&#8217;m aware of. I know of no body of law that delineates your &#8216;right&#8217; to get up in somebodies face and weasel business plans and secrets.<br />
I do not believe that the simple act of delivering a Keynote makes anyone a &#8216;public figure&#8217;, and strips them of their expectance of privacy.</p>
<p>If an organization comprised of individuals have concerns about confidentiality,<br />
They are well within their rights to limit who participates in or eavesdrops on their conversations.<br />
In this case, The Linux Foundation, is a collection of like minded individuals with common cause. You are obviously not of like mind, and do not share their cause. I see nothing about disclosure in their charter, and nothing about global announcements of innovations in their mission. and try though I might, I can&#8217;t find a release schedule anywhere.</p>
<p>Nothing within any &#8216;Open Source&#8217; license I know of, grants you or anyone else any right to know how the code is being used privately. This includes &#8216;in house&#8217;<br />
systems. Nothing prevents limited sharing of information (including code) directly between consenting individuals or organizations. Be they a pair of hobbyists or multinationals.<br />
If there is a commonality among all or most &#8216;Open Source&#8217; licenses, it&#8217;s that you can&#8217;t sell or profit directly from the efforts of others. Nothing says you can&#8217;t use it to create products and services of your own, or retain the value of your private modifications.<br />
If they make common contribution of things like bug fixes, home bred utilities, specs, or ideas, or even if they don&#8217;t, it is exactly within the spirit and intent of the community.</p>
<p>I specifically refute your disengenuous invocation of the term &#8216;elite&#8217; as a profane epithet. These might be some high powered people, and perhaps not. But, they are &#8216;elite&#8217; only insofar as they don&#8217;t include you. You want to join the party? Apply for membership. You want to demand a press pass so you can scarf on the buffet? Not likely.</p>
<p>BTW.  I&#8217;m not a member either, and have no need or intention to join.  I&#8217;ve been up to my hairline in &#8216;Open Source&#8217;, as a user, contributer, and stalwart community participant,  probably longer than you&#8217;ve been alive. I run &#8216;Open Source&#8217; throughout my organization. If you were to try to ask me what my secret sauce is, I&#8217;d laugh and call a cop.</p>
<p>Why, is this central concept not obvious to you? Why are you not championing the supportive environment that welcomes contribution of any scale without demanding it?</p>
<p>There are too many people around that treat &#8216;Open Source&#8217; licensing in a cavalier, and even disdainfully haughty fashion. There are criminals unashamedly charging license to code not of their own making. or based on code they received under licenses that specifically exclude such charges.<br />
Go hunt them, and if you want for suspects, let me know.</p>
<p>If you clam Linux, or &#8216;Open Source&#8217; in general as your bailiwick, whence comes your insistence upon rights that don&#8217;t exist? and the intent to enforce by proxy, rights of others that don&#8217;t exist.<br />
Like any other Paparazzi, you&#8217;re tryin to make money off hawking information you have no right to. And worse, you&#8217;re naively, and unabashedly attempting to use your platform and flame words to coerce people that just simply don&#8217;t want you around.</p>
<p>We in the community, live by the golden rule. You don&#8217;t like it, leave &#8212; period.</p>
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