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]]> By: Dmcclure http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/data-center-automation/digging-into-the-dcab-6s-functional-areas-process-orchestration/#comment-81 Dmcclure Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:04:31 +0000 http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/data-center-automation/digging-into-the-dcab-6s-functional-areas-process-orchestration/#comment-81 Ryan, Netcool/Impact had a simplistic "workflow" GUI in the past but it's not there anymore. The typical MUSE customer was generally anti-GUI. This is a big gap in the product when positioned against others and is probably one of the big reasons Real Ops was created (Windward CG (where Real Ops was born of) was a big MUSE partner). It can do any/all of those process automation or autonomic things, it just takes a programmer familiar with Impact Policy Language (IPL) to do them. Take a look at the Tivoli OPAL site and some of the Impact contributions there for examples. My guess is that TCM and TPM are the core products from a provisioning and deployment perspective ala Opsware or Bladelogic. Another product called Tivoli Directory Integrator (TDI) may be capable of doing some PA type things as well. It's very similar to Netcool/Impact in some ways as the "swiss army knife" for integrations. HTH, Doug Ryan,

Netcool/Impact had a simplistic “workflow” GUI in the past but it’s not there anymore. The typical MUSE customer was generally anti-GUI. This is a big gap in the product when positioned against others and is probably one of the big reasons Real Ops was created (Windward CG (where Real Ops was born of) was a big MUSE partner). It can do any/all of those process automation or autonomic things, it just takes a programmer familiar with Impact Policy Language (IPL) to do them. Take a look at the Tivoli OPAL site and some of the Impact contributions there for examples.

My guess is that TCM and TPM are the core products from a provisioning and deployment perspective ala Opsware or Bladelogic. Another product called Tivoli Directory Integrator (TDI) may be capable of doing some PA type things as well. It’s very similar to Netcool/Impact in some ways as the “swiss army knife” for integrations.

HTH,

Doug

]]> By: Ryan Shopp http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/data-center-automation/digging-into-the-dcab-6s-functional-areas-process-orchestration/#comment-80 Ryan Shopp Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:36:10 +0000 http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/data-center-automation/digging-into-the-dcab-6s-functional-areas-process-orchestration/#comment-80 Doug, just looked at the Impact product and see where it does fit this area. I was looking around and didn't see any information about a graphical workflow UI to simplify the design around orchestrating processes. Does Impact offer that? I've worked with the former ThinkDynamics product previously, which I think is now Tivoli Provisioning Manager and/or Intelligent Orchestrator, and it had this GUI interface to create/orchestrate the steps of the workflow. I think it's being primarily used/positioned for system/application provisioning. Any further thoughts or clarification you can provide. For example: what would Tivoli position these days against the HP's Opsware SAS and former iConclude product....I would have guessed prior to your post Tivoli Configuration Manager & Tivoli Provisioning Manager? I'm wide open to correction, please let me know. Doug, just looked at the Impact product and see where it does fit this area. I was looking around and didn’t see any information about a graphical workflow UI to simplify the design around orchestrating processes. Does Impact offer that? I’ve worked with the former ThinkDynamics product previously, which I think is now Tivoli Provisioning Manager and/or Intelligent Orchestrator, and it had this GUI interface to create/orchestrate the steps of the workflow. I think it’s being primarily used/positioned for system/application provisioning. Any further thoughts or clarification you can provide. For example: what would Tivoli position these days against the HP’s Opsware SAS and former iConclude product….I would have guessed prior to your post Tivoli Configuration Manager & Tivoli Provisioning Manager? I’m wide open to correction, please let me know.

]]> By: Dmcclure http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/data-center-automation/digging-into-the-dcab-6s-functional-areas-process-orchestration/#comment-79 Dmcclure Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:21:07 +0000 http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/data-center-automation/digging-into-the-dcab-6s-functional-areas-process-orchestration/#comment-79 Ryan, I'm not sure what that ThinkDynamics product is, but via the MUSE acquisition, the Netcool/Impact product is heavily used in this area. Doug Ryan,

I’m not sure what that ThinkDynamics product is, but via the MUSE acquisition, the Netcool/Impact product is heavily used in this area.

Doug

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