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		<title>By: Harold</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/channel-marker/singing-the-vista-blues/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 19:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In regards to Vista&#039;s interface, my experience is that Vista copied the Mac&#039;s OS interface. The file structure, the look of the folders, the whole 3D type affect; Microsoft is just trying to be like Mac in style and format. Even in security, by asking for the Administrator/Owner to give the OK to access the features; Mac has been doing that for many years when it comes to making changes or installation of software. I don&#039;t own a Mac, but have worked with them for many years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In regards to Vista&#8217;s interface, my experience is that Vista copied the Mac&#8217;s OS interface. The file structure, the look of the folders, the whole 3D type affect; Microsoft is just trying to be like Mac in style and format. Even in security, by asking for the Administrator/Owner to give the OK to access the features; Mac has been doing that for many years when it comes to making changes or installation of software. I don&#8217;t own a Mac, but have worked with them for many years.</p>
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		<title>By: name unknown</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/channel-marker/singing-the-vista-blues/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>name unknown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Windows Vista?  Who cares Windows Vienna is coming in less than 2 years!

Anyone remember Windows ME?

XP Pro is slated until at least 2009.  So don&#039;t worry about the drop in support.  They have to support it AFTER they stop selling in for a certain number of years.

By the time Microsoft stops the support, Windows Vienna, aka Windows 7 will be available.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Windows Vista?  Who cares Windows Vienna is coming in less than 2 years!</p>
<p>Anyone remember Windows ME?</p>
<p>XP Pro is slated until at least 2009.  So don&#8217;t worry about the drop in support.  They have to support it AFTER they stop selling in for a certain number of years.</p>
<p>By the time Microsoft stops the support, Windows Vienna, aka Windows 7 will be available.</p>
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		<title>By: Farokh Monajem</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/channel-marker/singing-the-vista-blues/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>Farokh Monajem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am amazed by all the rhetoric over Vista.  Microsoft is behaving according to their tried and true pattern.  From the beginning of their software development, Microsoft has followed the same pattern.

1. Develop an OS
2. Market the hell out of it before it ships
3. Ship, timeliness is not a factor that matters little to anyone
4. PR machine claims huge success and adoption rate
5. Ship an SP within a year
6. Claim huge adoption rates
7. Improve the product over the next year or so
8. Claim huge adoption rates

By now whatever OS was shipped is rock solid, with a large number of vendors supporting it.  And guess what, huge adoption rates start to actually take place.  There is little choice, since the previous OS if well off the market.

Microsoft has held to this pattern since the days of DOS 3.x.  Nothing has changed with Vista.  Complete re-write; claims of huge adoption rates.  Users have the same complaints they had with Windows 95/98/2000/XP.  Hardware compatibility, slow performance, lack of supporting software and hardware.

Give Vista a couple of years.  Once all the other actors catch up, the OS will start showing all the right plumage.

History does repeat itself, specially in the tried and true world of Microsoft marketing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am amazed by all the rhetoric over Vista.  Microsoft is behaving according to their tried and true pattern.  From the beginning of their software development, Microsoft has followed the same pattern.</p>
<p>1. Develop an OS<br />
2. Market the hell out of it before it ships<br />
3. Ship, timeliness is not a factor that matters little to anyone<br />
4. PR machine claims huge success and adoption rate<br />
5. Ship an SP within a year<br />
6. Claim huge adoption rates<br />
7. Improve the product over the next year or so<br />
8. Claim huge adoption rates</p>
<p>By now whatever OS was shipped is rock solid, with a large number of vendors supporting it.  And guess what, huge adoption rates start to actually take place.  There is little choice, since the previous OS if well off the market.</p>
<p>Microsoft has held to this pattern since the days of DOS 3.x.  Nothing has changed with Vista.  Complete re-write; claims of huge adoption rates.  Users have the same complaints they had with Windows 95/98/2000/XP.  Hardware compatibility, slow performance, lack of supporting software and hardware.</p>
<p>Give Vista a couple of years.  Once all the other actors catch up, the OS will start showing all the right plumage.</p>
<p>History does repeat itself, specially in the tried and true world of Microsoft marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/channel-marker/singing-the-vista-blues/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 15:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If only Microsoft would have provided a classic interface, adoption would have been quicker and users could ease into the new interface.  I used vista for 4 months and had a lot of issues navigating through the new interface and couldn&#039;t locate any means of making the interace more xp like in functionality.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only Microsoft would have provided a classic interface, adoption would have been quicker and users could ease into the new interface.  I used vista for 4 months and had a lot of issues navigating through the new interface and couldn&#8217;t locate any means of making the interace more xp like in functionality.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Szpiro</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/channel-marker/singing-the-vista-blues/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr Szpiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 14:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vista needs hardware upgrade.
Needs very large foot print on the HDD.
Some facilities are no longer.
Some applications may yet not be compatible.
Desktop icons have to be dug to be put back on.  One needs even registry modification.
Expensive.
Too much protection, interfers with install of office.
Long install time.
I cannot see the benefit, apart from extra income for Microsoft and PC makers ( to buy a new PC)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vista needs hardware upgrade.<br />
Needs very large foot print on the HDD.<br />
Some facilities are no longer.<br />
Some applications may yet not be compatible.<br />
Desktop icons have to be dug to be put back on.  One needs even registry modification.<br />
Expensive.<br />
Too much protection, interfers with install of office.<br />
Long install time.<br />
I cannot see the benefit, apart from extra income for Microsoft and PC makers ( to buy a new PC)</p>
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		<title>By: Joao Martins</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/channel-marker/singing-the-vista-blues/#comment-479</link>
		<dc:creator>Joao Martins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that Microsoft just made a great favor to open source world. One of the major reasons to resistance in moving to open source, at least at desktop level, has always been that the migration process would require to much effort specially on trainning (re-trainning) of users.

Moving to Vista apparently will require a major effort anyway, so why not having a closer look at open source environments.

This problem does not only impact moving to Vista. If you have a closer look at Office 2007, you will probably realize that you will have to face the same sort of challenges.

Finally, we all should stop for a second and think a bit deeper about what open source means, IT IS SURELY NOT JUST A QUESTION OF FREE LICENCES. I will not spend too much time on this issue now (may be in a future opportunity) but the bottom line is that at least whatever effort and investment might be done in migrating to open source will not be just for next versions and having to restart the hole thing again when next version is out.

Have ever heard about &quot;protecting your investment&quot; ??? Just think about it before doing anymove. I am not saying that no one should move to Vista. I am just saying that you should first be very sure on what to do and why before you go ahead. I personnally am getting very sure of what is going to be my next move.

I am in the business since the early 80s and the only thing I really regret is not having given a closer look at open source solutions earlier.

Thanks for your patience going through this comment

Joao Martins
Mozambique
admin@microsis.co.mz]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Microsoft just made a great favor to open source world. One of the major reasons to resistance in moving to open source, at least at desktop level, has always been that the migration process would require to much effort specially on trainning (re-trainning) of users.</p>
<p>Moving to Vista apparently will require a major effort anyway, so why not having a closer look at open source environments.</p>
<p>This problem does not only impact moving to Vista. If you have a closer look at Office 2007, you will probably realize that you will have to face the same sort of challenges.</p>
<p>Finally, we all should stop for a second and think a bit deeper about what open source means, IT IS SURELY NOT JUST A QUESTION OF FREE LICENCES. I will not spend too much time on this issue now (may be in a future opportunity) but the bottom line is that at least whatever effort and investment might be done in migrating to open source will not be just for next versions and having to restart the hole thing again when next version is out.</p>
<p>Have ever heard about &#8220;protecting your investment&#8221; ??? Just think about it before doing anymove. I am not saying that no one should move to Vista. I am just saying that you should first be very sure on what to do and why before you go ahead. I personnally am getting very sure of what is going to be my next move.</p>
<p>I am in the business since the early 80s and the only thing I really regret is not having given a closer look at open source solutions earlier.</p>
<p>Thanks for your patience going through this comment</p>
<p>Joao Martins<br />
Mozambique<br />
<a href="mailto:admin@microsis.co.mz">admin@microsis.co.mz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/channel-marker/singing-the-vista-blues/#comment-478</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The support issue is overblown. Yes, mainstream support for XP will end at the end of 2008. That means no additional service packs, bug fixes, etc. However, security support (critical security patches, for example) will continue until 2013 (five years after mainstream support ends). 
The reality is that the requirement for bug fixes, hot fixes, et al declines as a product matures and problems are identified and resolved, so XP won&#039;t require much non-security support beyond 2008. (it doesn&#039;t even require much today). Anything that&#039;s really critical WILL get supported for a much longer period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The support issue is overblown. Yes, mainstream support for XP will end at the end of 2008. That means no additional service packs, bug fixes, etc. However, security support (critical security patches, for example) will continue until 2013 (five years after mainstream support ends).<br />
The reality is that the requirement for bug fixes, hot fixes, et al declines as a product matures and problems are identified and resolved, so XP won&#8217;t require much non-security support beyond 2008. (it doesn&#8217;t even require much today). Anything that&#8217;s really critical WILL get supported for a much longer period.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/channel-marker/singing-the-vista-blues/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This raises a HUGE eyebrow with me. I have tryed the vista for i think  10 minutes on my new laptop. It&#039;s dual core 3 ghz with 2 gb ram and on vista slow as ..... Anyways i see no benefit from upgrading my customers to vista. They bought XP legal, so i suggest the goverment claims a few extra years of support from microsoft. Since recently microsoft had to extend support for xp from dec 2007 to dec 2008, wich i think is great news.

When is microsoft going to learn what it&#039;s all about. It&#039;s about functionality, i heared rumors about a Operating system only version of windows coming up. That would be a step forward for microsoft. I do not think there is anything more needed then XP has to offer. 

Thanks for reading.

Robin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This raises a HUGE eyebrow with me. I have tryed the vista for i think  10 minutes on my new laptop. It&#8217;s dual core 3 ghz with 2 gb ram and on vista slow as &#8230;.. Anyways i see no benefit from upgrading my customers to vista. They bought XP legal, so i suggest the goverment claims a few extra years of support from microsoft. Since recently microsoft had to extend support for xp from dec 2007 to dec 2008, wich i think is great news.</p>
<p>When is microsoft going to learn what it&#8217;s all about. It&#8217;s about functionality, i heared rumors about a Operating system only version of windows coming up. That would be a step forward for microsoft. I do not think there is anything more needed then XP has to offer. </p>
<p>Thanks for reading.</p>
<p>Robin</p>
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